(11-06-2017, 08:31 AM)Steve Wrote: this is a conservative organization.....they signed Ced & Fisher to 4 yr deals so they'll play at least 4 years even if they refuse to block anyone....
look at Bodine.....perfect example....a 4th rd pick who we never should of selected...he's just too weak....constantly gets pushed back into A.D.'s lap but he's still here after 4 years....
we all see the problems but management refuses to fix anything.....
w/ all of Eifert's injury issues & this being his last year on his deal we should of selected O.J. Howard in rd #1 but no.....we pick a "toy" in Ross....a fast guy who never plays.....
it's obvious to me we need help in our war room selecting players...
next draft use EVERY PICK WE HAVE ON O-LINE PLAYERS....
but of course that's not going to happen....Bodine will get a new 4 year deal....Ced & Fisher will both be starters next yr & this weak o-line nightmare will continue.....
SMH.....
w/ so much on the line....I just don't understand why this teams likes O-line players that are junk....
ps. & why does A.D keep throwing deep passes out of bounds...?  I say trade him in the off season.....get whatever you can get & get someone else in as QB.....if you can't keep the ball in bounds you shouldn't be playing......

(11-06-2017, 08:13 AM)sonofstat Wrote: One of the worst things about this season (and there's a few to choose from) is that the OLine has been so bad that its been really hard to tell if really the rest of the team is as good as people think or not.

Core/Malone/ross/Lafell/Erickson/Boyd...take your pick of WR - they've all got potential but does not matter because of the OLine

Kroft/Uzomah/Hewitt ...without Eifert there are no stars but they can get the job done but are being impacted by the OLine

Dalton.....different opinions as some believe 2015 Andy is still there...others point to missed deep balls,etc, some want AJMc - whatever happens it does not happen due to the OLine

Mixon, Hill , Gio....Mixon is way better than J. Hill and best thing since sliced bread- even though he's nowhere near Hills rookie year and his YPC is bad, Gio we have no plan for - whatever it does not matter because of the OLine

even our defense ....billings, sims, Glasgow, whoever else at DT are fine/have potential but they're on the field so much because the OLine is causing 3&outs meaning we give up yards.

So are we genuinely golden apart from the OLine??.. or are we living in a fools paradise that we if we fix the OLine then the rest of the squad has great quality waiting to be unleashed??





 

(11-06-2017, 08:13 AM)sonofstat Wrote: One of the worst things about this season (and there's a few to choose from) is that the OLine has been so bad that its been really hard to tell if really the rest of the team is as good as people think or not.

Core/Malone/ross/Lafell/Erickson/Boyd...take your pick of WR - they've all got potential but does not matter because of the OLine

Kroft/Uzomah/Hewitt ...without Eifert there are no stars but they can get the job done but are being impacted by the OLine

Dalton.....different opinions as some believe 2015 Andy is still there...others point to missed deep balls,etc, some want AJMc - whatever happens it does not happen due to the OLine

Mixon, Hill , Gio....Mixon is way better than J. Hill and best thing since sliced bread- even though he's nowhere near Hills rookie year and his YPC is bad, Gio we have no plan for - whatever it does not matter because of the OLine

even our defense ....billings, sims, Glasgow, whoever else at DT are fine/have potential but they're on the field so much because the OLine is causing 3&outs meaning we give up yards.

So are we genuinely golden apart from the OLine??.. or are we living in a fools paradise that we if we fix the OLine then the rest of the squad has great quality waiting to be unleashed??

(11-06-2017, 09:59 AM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: besides Green, Dalton, Kroft, Mixon,or Gio We don't have any other players who would even be good enough to be active on a 46 man roster on 90 percent of the league

(11-06-2017, 09:59 AM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: besides Green, Dalton, Kroft, Mixon,or Gio We don't have any other players who would even be good enough to be active on a 46 man roster on 90 percent of the league

(11-06-2017, 11:28 AM)bengals67 Wrote: Completely different season if we had re-signed Whit and Zeitler, replaced Bodine, and used one of our top three draft picks on a quality o linemen.

Like who on this board did not understand this before the draft?

Answer, only Mike Brown, Marv and Paul Alexander did not understand this or they did not give a dam because the organization was obligated to contracts with awful linemen and was going to make a lot of money this year even if they went 0-16.

The GM, head coach and o line coach all would be fired at the end of the season by any other NFL team or any major college football team.

(11-06-2017, 08:55 AM)sonofstat Wrote: If that's the case then we run the real risk of 3 years in a row where the OLine is the worse unit on the squad.

Plus that means another season potentially where we can all say we have good/great potential across the board but its the Oline masking tha ta quality.

...that's the bit I'm struggling with - I think WR, TE and maybe even RB (some say QB too) still needs addressing but to be honest who knows because the go to answer is that its on the OLine.

sonofstat Wrote:Mixon, Hill , Gio....Mixon is way better than J. Hill and best thing since sliced bread- even though he's nowhere near Hills rookie year and his YPC is bad, Gio we have no plan for - whatever it does not matter because of the OLine

(11-06-2017, 12:54 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Forget evaluations, it's pointless to try to fix anything else until the OL is fixed. Who believes that Brown's pride will allow him to give up on 2 recent first round Tackles?