(12-22-2017, 12:15 PM)jj22 Wrote: Either way we need to figure out a way to get Munchak here to help the Oline. Steelers aren't going to let him make a lateral move (and may not let him come over as our OC). If we get an offense minded HC, we could use a OC in name only who can double as the Oline coach. Or at least assist the Oline.

I also think we should be open to college coaches if you want to do this right (we may only get one shot for the next 15 years). Great DL's at Clemson. Great LB's at Bama. Great Olines at Stanford, Great RB's at Stanford/Georgia, Great DB's at Florida state. etc.

I don't mind who we end up with, but if we only changing coaches every 2 decades or so, I hope they look everywhere and extend a wide net.

My dream coaching staff (and yea it's a dream scenario)

HC - Matt Lafleur

OC - Mike Munchak
OLC - Joe Rudolph
QBC - Lazor
WRC - Urban
RBC - Curtis Modkins
TEC - Rob Chud

DC - Todd Bowles
DLC - Patrick Graham
LBC - Rex Ryan
DBC - Vance Joseph
DBC - Coyle

Some of these coaches I'm assuming will be let go after the season....

Thoughts?

(12-22-2017, 12:15 PM)jj22 Wrote: Either way we need to figure out a way to get Munchak here to help the Oline. Steelers aren't going to let him make a lateral move (and may not let him come over as our OC). If we get an offense minded HC, we could use a OC in name only who can double as the Oline coach. Or at least assist the Oline.

I also think we should be open to college coaches if you want to do this right (we may only get one shot for the next 15 years). Great DL's at Clemson. Great LB's at Bama. Great Olines at Stanford, Great RB's at Stanford/Georgia, Great DB's at Florida state. etc.

I don't mind who we end up with, but if we only changing coaches every 2 decades or so, I hope they look everywhere and extend a wide net.

My dream coaching staff (and yea it's a dream scenario)

HC - Matt Lafleur

OC - Mike Munchak
OLC - Joe Rudolph
QBC - Lazor
WRC - Urban
RBC - Curtis Modkins
TEC - Rob Chud

DC - Todd Bowles
DLC - Patrick Graham
LBC - Rex Ryan
DBC - Vance Joseph
DBC - Coyle

Some of these coaches I'm assuming will be let go after the season....

Thoughts?

(12-22-2017, 12:41 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Doubling duties - especially OC and position group - sounds pretty far fetched. I think i'd want the OC to be fully focused on setting direction for the entire offense vs just the o-line. Plus, I don't even think he has any offensive play calling experience, does he?

(12-22-2017, 12:42 PM)Wyche Wrote: Well, he was HC in Tennessee for a couple seasons.....

(12-22-2017, 12:44 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Yeah, I remember that, but didn't know if had any input or called any offensive gameplans during that or before that stint as a HC? 

(12-22-2017, 12:34 PM)Wyche Wrote: That's a pretty good list, tbh.  I REALLY love Bowles as our DC.  What I like about him, he seems to able to run a 3-4 or 4-3, depending on personnel.  That would be a GREAT hire IMO.

(12-22-2017, 12:35 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yeah...I doubt Rex Ryan comes here to be our Linebackers Coach.

We can do wish lists...but I doubt we get many top candidates.

(12-22-2017, 12:41 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Doubling duties - especially OC and position group - sounds pretty far fetched. I think i'd want the OC to be fully focused on setting direction for the entire offense vs just the o-line. Plus, I don't even think he has any offensive play calling experience, does he?

(12-22-2017, 12:59 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Is bowles getting fired?  Doubt he want to move from HC to DC

(12-22-2017, 12:46 PM)Wyche Wrote: Probably not.....but I think j22 was hinting at Muchack being brought in to essentially right the ship on the line under an offensive HC that may call his own plays.

(12-22-2017, 01:26 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: So we want the HC to double down responsibilities? Just doesn't seem like the most sustainable approach. 

(12-22-2017, 01:26 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: So we want the HC to double down responsibilities? Just doesn't seem like the most sustainable approach. 

(12-22-2017, 01:42 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Plus scout...

(12-22-2017, 01:40 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: There are a few that do/have done it.  Some work, some don't.  At this point, we're just spitballing, but as jj noted, I don't think the Stoolers allow him to make a lateral move in the AFCN, of all places, with the Bengals.  It's a scenario that I could get on board with, although I doubt it happens....make that I KNOW it won't happen.  That said, Alexander is a turd, a guy like Munchak would be invaluable on this staff with the way our line plays, however you would have to work it to get him here. 

(12-22-2017, 02:09 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Yeah, I know Andy Reid does it but the OC still puts the gameplan together. I don’t know how much knowledge he has with this. Not saying it can’t work, just seems like there’s better options out there

(12-22-2017, 12:15 PM)jj22 Wrote: Either way we need to figure out a way to get Munchak here to help the Oline. Steelers aren't going to let him make a lateral move (and may not let him come over as our OC). If we get an offense minded HC, we could use a OC in name only who can double as the Oline coach. Or at least assist the Oline.

I also think we should be open to college coaches if you want to do this right (we may only get one shot for the next 15 years). Great DL's at Clemson. Great LB's at Bama. Great Olines at Stanford, Great RB's at Stanford/Georgia, Great DB's at Florida state. etc.

I don't mind who we end up with, but if we only changing coaches every 2 decades or so, I hope they look everywhere and extend a wide net.

My dream coaching staff (and yea it's a dream scenario)

HC - Matt Lafleur

OC - Mike Munchak
OLC - Joe Rudolph
QBC - Lazor
WRC - Urban
RBC - Curtis Modkins
TEC - Rob Chud

DC - Todd Bowles
DLC - Patrick Graham
LBC - Rex Ryan
DBC - Vance Joseph
DBC - Coyle

Some of these coaches I'm assuming will be let go after the season....

Thoughts?