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Mockmass - Emeritus - 12-24-2017
Mockmass
1) Derwin James S FSU
https://youtu.be/KsqgBSolD1s
2) Kolton Miller T UCLA
https://youtu.be/qC50miZnG7A
https://youtu.be/hAy06KzM-kE
3) Josey Jewell LB Iowa
https://youtu.be/FeaPxtE6xpk
3) Will Clapp C/G LSU
https://youtu.be/bZ4BEvAQzcY
4) Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado
https://youtu.be/fN7U8BkwrK4
5) Marcell Ateman WR Oklahoma State
https://youtu.be/6-SXviA0bTo
6) Skai Moore LB South Carolina
https://youtu.be/f98va3YF3Uo
RE: Mockmass - pulses - 12-25-2017
(12-24-2017, 09:08 PM)Emeritus Wrote: MockmassKolton Miller is currently the 15th rated prospect in the draft on cbs sports and Oliver and Atemen are 30 and 31 respectively.....
1) Derwin James S FSU
https://youtu.be/KsqgBSolD1s
2) Kolton Miller T UCLA
https://youtu.be/FLpc2laASI8
https://youtu.be/hAy06KzM-kE
3) Josey Jewell LB Iowa
https://youtu.be/mUPUh0SdJfE
RD3 Dalton Risner OL Kansas State
https://youtu.be/N_qaqYSj2l0
4) Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado
https://youtu.be/D3-DpLfnicc
5) Marcell Ateman WR Oklahoma State
https://youtu.be/6-SXviA0bTo
RE: Mockmass - Jpoore - 12-25-2017
(12-24-2017, 09:08 PM)Emeritus Wrote: MockmassYour too high on Miller imo. Everyone knows I'm all aboard the price Hernandez hype train so I'll give u 3 different names in that spot. Martina's Rankin, deshon Elliot, Malik Jefferson. In the third u could switch jewell (who probably won't fall that far) with Isiah Wynn . Just some name drops that are out of ordinary for me. But overall it's a solid mock, just think Miller is too overhyped.
1) Derwin James S FSU
https://youtu.be/KsqgBSolD1s
2) Kolton Miller T UCLA
https://youtu.be/FLpc2laASI8
https://youtu.be/hAy06KzM-kE
3) Josey Jewell LB Iowa
https://youtu.be/mUPUh0SdJfE
RD3 Dalton Risner OL Kansas State
https://youtu.be/N_qaqYSj2l0
4) Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado
https://youtu.be/D3-DpLfnicc
5) Marcell Ateman WR Oklahoma State
https://youtu.be/6-SXviA0bTo
RE: Mockmass - pulses - 12-25-2017
(12-25-2017, 02:04 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Your too high on Miller imo. Everyone knows I'm all aboard the price Hernandez hype train so I'll give u 3 different names in that spot. Martina's Rankin, deshon Elliot, Malik Jefferson. In the third u could switch jewell (who probably won't fall that far) with Isiah Wynn . Just some name drops that are out of ordinary for me. But overall it's a solid mock, just think Miller is too overhyped.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-kolton-miller-has-a-well-rounded-franchise-left-tackle-skill-set/
UCLA's Kolton Miller is the left tackle who's primed for a major draft rise over the next few months. The Bruins' blocker flashes outstanding balance for his size when moving backward and forward -- in pass protection and in the run game -- and is a through-the-whistle player who often overpowers defenders.
At 6-8 and 310 pounds with seemingly long arms, he has elite measureables.
Per Pro Football Focus, Miller allowed just 15 quarterback pressures (two sacks, eight hits, five hurries) on 544 pass-block snaps in 2017, which was good for the site's 10th-best Pass-Block Efficiency score among 121 qualifying offensive tackles. In a pass-happy NFL, Miller's pass-blocking prowess will likely be the main reason he's picked in the first round.
RE: Mockmass - Jpoore - 12-25-2017
(12-25-2017, 06:01 AM)pulses Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-kolton-miller-has-a-well-rounded-franchise-left-tackle-skill-set/If I had to pick a rising left tackle I would pick Rankin. I doubt Miller goes before the back half of round 3.
UCLA's Kolton Miller is the left tackle who's primed for a major draft rise over the next few months. The Bruins' blocker flashes outstanding balance for his size when moving backward and forward -- in pass protection and in the run game -- and is a through-the-whistle player who often overpowers defenders.
At 6-8 and 310 pounds with seemingly long arms, he has elite measureables.
Per Pro Football Focus, Miller allowed just 15 quarterback pressures (two sacks, eight hits, five hurries) on 544 pass-block snaps in 2017, which was good for the site's 10th-best Pass-Block Efficiency score among 121 qualifying offensive tackles. In a pass-happy NFL, Miller's pass-blocking prowess will likely be the main reason he's picked in the first round.
RE: Mockmass - pulses - 12-25-2017
(12-25-2017, 06:36 AM)Jpoore Wrote: If I had to pick a rising left tackle I would pick Rankin. I doubt Miller goes before the back half of round 3.
I would say these people know a lot more than you do.....no offense.
RE: Mockmass - Jpoore - 12-26-2017
(12-25-2017, 08:00 PM)pulses Wrote: I would say these people know a lot more than you do.....no offense.
No offense taken. If everyone agreed on this board, there wouldn't be a board. But Miller seems to be a ok pick. Average tackle at best. Not top 10 tackle upside imo.
RE: Mockmass - Hammerstripes - 12-27-2017
If you've watched Miller, then you know he is ready to step in on a pro-style system and play immediately.
I've watched every game that Rosen has played and I went back and watched Miller. He's a better LT than Rankin
Mockmass - ochocincos - 12-30-2017
(12-26-2017, 02:24 AM)Jpoore Wrote: No offense taken. If everyone agreed on this board, there wouldn't be a board. But Miller seems to be a ok pick. Average tackle at best. Not top 10 tackle upside imo.
I think you have a very unique take on certain prospects compared to what others see on those same prospects. You seem to base your analysis really just off what you’ve personally researched and not allowed others to influence your perspective. That’s very rare nowadays.
I’d like to see some write up from you on comparing players like Nelson vs Hernandez since you are adamant that Hernandez is better than Nelson when most people think the opposite.
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RE: Mockmass - Jpoore - 12-30-2017
(12-30-2017, 01:14 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I think you have a very unique take on certain prospects compared to what others see on those same prospects. You seem to base your analysis really just off what you’ve personally researched and not allowed others to influence your perspective. That’s very rare nowadays.I've already got it written I'll post the topic tomorrow. It's a decent Length though just to warn u. And I have them 1a 1b. But i just think Hernandez is a better value in the second than Nelson in The first bc they are so close. Don't see a major gap just that Hernandez is a little better. And I let people give me early bias, like Mike maycock, Todd mccshay, mat Miller, Mel kiper, etc. but then I go and watch tape. And tape Trump's everything.for example 2019 dt1 is Trenton Thompson out of Georgia. Go watch some tape you'll think it's 2008 again and ur watching Geno Atkins in college. But most people have him outside the top 5 DTS i also lean on Lombardi's draft talk on Facebook(3000+ members) that have actual websites and scouting experience with a lot of people in that group. While it's important to lean on other people's opinions and what they're seeing, ultimately u need to form ur own opinion based on what ur eyes tell u. But as stated, I'll post my write up tomorrow.
I’d like to see some write up from you on comparing players like Nelson vs Hernandez since you are adamant that Hernandez is better than Nelson when most people think the opposite.
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RE: Mockmass - Hammerstripes - 01-06-2018
(12-30-2017, 08:40 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I've already got it written I'll post the topic tomorrow. It's a decent Length though just to warn u. And I have them 1a 1b. But i just think Hernandez is a better value in the second than Nelson in The first bc they are so close. Don't see a major gap just that Hernandez is a little better. And I let people give me early bias, like Mike maycock, Todd mccshay, mat Miller, Mel kiper, etc. but then I go and watch tape. And tape Trump's everything.for example 2019 dt1 is Trenton Thompson out of Georgia. Go watch some tape you'll think it's 2008 again and ur watching Geno Atkins in college. But most people have him outside the top 5 DTS i also lean on Lombardi's draft talk on Facebook(3000+ members) that have actual websites and scouting experience with a lot of people in that group. While it's important to lean on other people's opinions and what they're seeing, ultimately u need to form ur own opinion based on what ur eyes tell u. But as stated, I'll post my write up tomorrow.
They'll both be first rounders.
RE: Mockmass - Jpoore - 01-06-2018
(01-06-2018, 01:43 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: They'll both be first rounders.
Yeah unfortunately it's looking that way. Same as price. Still would take Hernandez over Nelson. But not over price. In my rankings, it goes price Hernandez Nelson ivey Wynn rangow