(12-28-2017, 03:11 PM)PhilHos Wrote: ... will we know if Merv is truly gone? And if so, how soon after the Ravens game do we start a new head coaching search in earnest?

I have a feeling that we'll know the former pretty quickly (within the week I'm guessing), so I'm more interested in how long Brown waits before starting his search, assuming Merv is officially not coming back. And I mean, REALLY searching. Like talking to guys, interviewing candidates, etc. None of this, "Oh, we're putting a list together" crap.

Of course. I'm still holding out hope that Brown makes an announcement that Merv is not coming back AND that he's officially turning over the team to Katie who in turn announces she's starting the head coaching search by searching for a GM. Just goes to show, the Bengals haven't killed ALL my dreams, yet.  

(12-28-2017, 03:11 PM)PhilHos Wrote: ... will we know if Merv is truly gone? And if so, how soon after the Ravens game do we start a new head coaching search in earnest?

I have a feeling that we'll know the former pretty quickly (within the week I'm guessing), so I'm more interested in how long Brown waits before starting his search, assuming Merv is officially not coming back. And I mean, REALLY searching. Like talking to guys, interviewing candidates, etc. None of this, "Oh, we're putting a list together" crap.

Of course. I'm still holding out hope that Brown makes an announcement that Merv is not coming back AND that he's officially turning over the team to Katie who in turn announces she's starting the head coaching search by searching for a GM. Just goes to show, the Bengals haven't killed ALL my dreams, yet.  

(12-28-2017, 03:11 PM)PhilHos Wrote: ... will we know if Merv is truly gone? And if so, how soon after the Ravens game do we start a new head coaching search in earnest?

I have a feeling that we'll know the former pretty quickly (within the week I'm guessing), so I'm more interested in how long Brown waits before starting his search, assuming Merv is officially not coming back. And I mean, REALLY searching. Like talking to guys, interviewing candidates, etc. None of this, "Oh, we're putting a list together" crap.

Of course. I'm still holding out hope that Brown makes an announcement that Merv is not coming back AND that he's officially turning over the team to Katie who in turn announces she's starting the head coaching search by searching for a GM. Just goes to show, the Bengals haven't killed ALL my dreams, yet.  

(12-28-2017, 03:29 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Mike Brown has already decided which way he wants to proceed and there are three possibilities:

1.  Marvin stays on as head coach.
2.  Marvin gets promoted to the Front Office.
3.  Marvin leaves either of his own volition, by mutual agreement, or by being fired.

These possibilities do not occur with equal probability.  (3) is the most probable outcome followed by (1) and then (2).  

Supposing (3) is Mike Brown’s selection, I’m sure a search committee has been formed.  Hue Jackson has recently eliminated from contention because Cleveland is retaining him for 2018.

(12-28-2017, 03:20 PM)bengalhoel Wrote: If Mike Brown does things like he usually does, he will hire a coach a week before training camp. He will control the draft and player decisions until then. That way the coach will have no time to plan and strategize so it will be just like when Marvin and the rest of his coaches were here.

(12-28-2017, 04:13 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well that is incorrect on our head coach hires with Mike Brown.. Coslet and Lebeau were hired shortly after each season they had finished as inter coach and Lewis was hired in Jan , I don;t know when Shula was hired though but track record for Mike Brown is he does not wait long to hire head coaches

(12-28-2017, 03:37 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Spock is that you?? 

(12-28-2017, 04:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thought so, new that wasn't the case.

Man, sure hope MB steps aside and lets Katie pick a GM who knows his stuff. Right now i am thinking Jay Gruden and
Bill O'Brien for our new HC are the most likely and would absolutely love it to be Bill. He doesn't have any Bengal ties
really and i think would pick his own staff and not keep many if any of the current coaches.

Jay has said he wanted Guenther as his DC before, don't want Paulie G back after this very disappointing season.

(12-28-2017, 04:38 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: If Marvin is actually gone, they may follow a similar process to the last time they did a search, which was 2 interviews off the staff (Duffner, Anderson) and 3 from the outside (Lewis, Coughling, Mularkey).

If so, Guenther and Simmons would be the most obvious for the staff interviews. For outside guys - and assuming Jay and Hue aren't available - I could see the most realistic candidates coming from guys like Todd Haley, Pat Shurmur, Frank Reich, Matt LeFleur and Harold Goodwin. 

(12-28-2017, 04:38 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: If Marvin is actually gone, they may follow a similar process to the last time they did a search, which was 2 interviews off the staff (Duffner, Anderson) and 3 from the outside (Lewis, Coughling, Mularkey).

If so, Guenther and Simmons would be the most obvious for the staff interviews. For outside guys - and assuming Jay and Hue aren't available - I could see the most realistic candidates coming from guys like Todd Haley, Pat Shurmur, Frank Reich, Matt LeFleur and Harold Goodwin. 

(12-28-2017, 04:49 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Love all the outside guys you mention except Goodwin who i know nothing about.

Haven't heard his name come up yet got any info on him Holic?

(12-28-2017, 04:49 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I don't know why, but Frank Reich seems to be sticking in my head. 

(12-28-2017, 04:50 PM)PhilHos Wrote: How worried are any of you that Brown seriously pursues a trade of Gruden with the Redskins?

If Jay comes back i hope he has changed his mind on this one.

(12-28-2017, 04:55 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: He's been Arizona's OC the last few years, working under Arians. Before that, he was the Colts o-line coach and spent time with the Steelers as an o-line quality control coach. He also coached o-line in college.

Cool man thanks.

(12-28-2017, 05:04 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Mo Egger and James Rapien have been having a love affair with the idea of Brian Kelly.  

Brian Kelly as HC and Hue Jackson as OC could be interesting, I guess.