(02-05-2018, 04:46 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: A great TE really does make a huge difference. It’s no coincidence we had one of our best seasons ever the year Eifert was catching TD’s at will.

Also, the Pats Oline cost them the game. Yes they only gave up 1 sack, but it was one of the biggest sacks ever. No doubt in my mind Brady marches them down the field and scores without that strip. They also gave up a ton during the regular season. They’re not that good.

(02-05-2018, 06:17 AM)CornerBlitz Wrote: Uhm, no dude, it was the Pats defense that cost them the game. The Eagles offense was unstoppable and in addition the Pats protected Brady decently considering the Eagles great defense.

(02-05-2018, 06:17 AM)CornerBlitz Wrote: Uhm, no dude, it was the Pats defense that cost them the game. The Eagles offense was unstoppable and in addition the Pats protected Brady decently considering the Eagles great defense.

(02-05-2018, 10:46 AM)lone bengal Wrote: The big things that the Eagles have that the Bengals don't are
1. A aggressive and creative head coach who keeps the pressure on the other team by not playing conservative and letting up when he has a lead
2. Great offensive line with a great center and tackle
3. A play making safety in Jenkins
4. Using free agency to get better, Blount, Long, Jenkins, Smith, trading for Timmy Jernigan and Jay Ajayi  ect.

I feel like the Bengals have more talent on defense than the Eagles.  Atkins is similar to Cox and we have guys like Dunlap and Lawson who can rush the qb like the Eagles line can.  Burfict is better than their LB's but he's often hurt or suspended, William Jackson III is probably better then all their CB's but Jenkins is way better than our safeties.  We have to fix the line so are D isn't on the field all the time and also be better against the run.  The Bengals should take notice of how a good center like Kelce can impact a game vs trying to resign one of the worst centers in the game in Bodine.

(02-05-2018, 03:09 AM)TKUHL Wrote: So one thing I noticed while watching the SB is that both teams have very good Centers, and Olines altogether and both teams have a lethal TE. Another thing I noticed is both teams have speedy WR's that can get separation fast. Is this the blueprint to be successful. Of course they both have very good defensive players also but, is it just a coincidence both teams in the SB have good lines and a TE that leads both their teams in receiving. If this is the recipe we have none of it.

(02-05-2018, 10:55 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: A great LT and center are where you start building an O-line, we have neither and apparently will continue to roll with are goobers.

(02-05-2018, 03:09 AM)TKUHL Wrote: So one thing I noticed while watching the SB is that both teams have very good Centers, and Olines altogether and both teams have a lethal TE. Another thing I noticed is both teams have speedy WR's that can get separation fast. Is this the blueprint to be successful. Of course they both have very good defensive players also but, is it just a coincidence both teams in the SB have good lines and a TE that leads both their teams in receiving. If this is the recipe we have none of it.

(02-05-2018, 11:27 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I think being good on the lines impacts the game more than a good TE. Having a stud TE helps but it’s not a most have position. The Patriots have won super bowls and playoff games without Gronk.  It’s more about working the middle of the field and having a good second scoring threat weather than comes from TE or a number two receiver, or a slot receiver who can work the middle of the field. For example if Ross played like the number 9 pick , it would open up the offense for Green , we wouldn’t miss Eifert as much and Kroft could just be a compliment piece. But the line makes the difference, philly could run the ball and use play action effectively, plus the line could give Foles time to throw. All things the Bengals can’t do.

(02-05-2018, 11:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Bengals had practically all these things in 2015.
AJ, Eifert, Marvin Jones, and Sanu were all playing in that playoff game.
Bengals really only were missing a good center but the rest of the OL was solid to very good.
But now the Bengals need about 3-4 pieces to get back to that level.

(02-05-2018, 11:27 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I think being good on the lines impacts the game more than a good TE. Having a stud TE helps but it’s not a must have position. The Patriots have won super bowls and playoff games without Gronk.  It’s more about working the middle of the field and having a good second scoring threat weather than comes from TE or a number two receiver, or a slot receiver who can work the middle of the field. For example if Ross played like the number 9 pick , it would open up the offense for Green , we wouldn’t miss Eifert as much and Kroft could just be a compliment piece. But the line makes the difference, philly could run the ball and use play action effectively, plus the line could give Foles time to throw. All things the Bengals can’t do.

(02-05-2018, 10:55 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: A great LT and center are where you start building an O-line, we have neither and apparently will continue to roll with are goobers.