(02-18-2018, 01:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I miss Taylor Mays

(02-18-2018, 01:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I miss Taylor Mays

(02-18-2018, 01:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I miss Taylor Mays

(02-18-2018, 09:58 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: I am suprised this guy is rated so low in pre draft grades. He is the best non QB in draft and probably will go 3 or 4 overall come April.

(02-18-2018, 10:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: IDK about that. Saquon Barkley may disagree. The dude can be Barry Sanders. 

(02-19-2018, 02:28 AM)Jpoore Wrote: They're both right there. If we were just going top 5 talent In the draft it would go 
Barkley
James
Chubb
Ward
Jackson

(02-17-2018, 09:54 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Not my scouting report a friend's.

Derwin James
Florida St S/LB #3
6’3 215

Pros:
Physical Freak - Should blow up combine: (Rumored #s) Big(215+), Fast(4.35), Strong(400s Bench, 600s Squat) Agile, Powerful(400s P. Clean), Frame - REALLY long arms, frame that can bulk, Run Support - As a tackler shows great technique and a love for getting in run support: takes on blockers exceptionally well, and has heavy hands, Coverage - Feels like a extra CB, fluid, technique is at a good point, can jam WRs & TEs at a high level (Heavy Hands), No stiffness in his play, Good nose for the ball - Elite decision making/reaction time, Versatility - Florida St lined Derwin up at SS/NB/CBILB/OLB/EDGE & Derwin has even played FS all at a good level - Derwin is a pure Defensive Weapon, Has lined up as a Pass Rusher an shown the ability to over power OTs, use his hands & also speed rush past lineman, Sees the field very well, Upside - Can bulk up even more and become a better player, Has flashed lockdown upside coverage on both WRs & TEs, Has flashed a perfect CB/LB hybrid to make a All-Pro SS, Great Instincts, 11 PDs this year, Shown good ability in both man and zone

Cons:
Play dropped off when Florida St talent dropped off - Teams singled him out, Has a tendency to get flat-footed in coverage, Needs to lower missed tackle % although it's not terrible, Head up more in tackling, Only 1 Interception in 3 years, Will need to grow his knowledge on how to use his length more in coverage, Knee Injury in 2016 missed 9-10 games, Needs to continue to gain consistency in technique

Elite Traits: Athletic Upside, Read & React, Versatility, Length, Run Support, Blitzing Ability, Hips

Pro Bowl Traits: Coverage Ability, Strength, Instincts

Position: Jackknife SS, Having him be a chess piece on Defense will maximize his upside

Bottom Line: Man I love Derwin, #1 player on my Big Board for a reason. His versatility is off the charts, his natural athleticism is off the charts, and his balance as a SS/LB is off the charts. I see a Day 1 impact, and a Low Risk High Reward player. He shows the ability to make run stops all over the field, and has shown the ability to lockdown in both man and zone coverage. Derwin’s upside surpasses his high level of play and as long as he stays out of trouble and healthy I see a Great Player in this league. Player Comp, closest thing is Landon Collins, but I see more upside in Derwin.

RD Grade: 1
Player Comp: Harrison Smith/Landon Collins

Lowest catch rate allowed among power 5 draft eligible safety's minumum 15 targets. 44.7 percent.

(02-19-2018, 09:36 AM)sonofstat Wrote: I'm up for drafting a safety high but I don't know about James...yes, he's an amazing athlete but I want a true , ball hawk center fielder type.

(02-19-2018, 08:49 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: A lot of people are calling Nelson one of the most talented players in the draft, just that guard is undervalued making it possible he falls a little lower. 
Do you disagree with that sentiment?

Fitzpatrick and Edwards not making the list is a little surprising as well.

(02-19-2018, 11:50 AM)Au165 Wrote: Nelson is by far the safest pick in the draft, the question becomes who is willing to take a guard in the top 10? If he starts sliding to the bottom side of the top 10 I'd consider going up for him just to ensure we get a bona fide starter day 1.

(02-18-2018, 10:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: IDK about that. Saquon Barkley may disagree. The dude can be Barry Sanders. 

(02-18-2018, 10:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: IDK about that. Saquon Barkley may disagree. The dude can be Barry Sanders. 

(02-19-2018, 12:16 PM)sonofstat Wrote: I don't normally get too wrapped up in a specific player going into the draft (not since I really wanted Sedrick Ellis back in the day as I thought he was what Geno is to us now...got that one wrong!)

...but if Nelson falls to us it makes a lot of sense and I would be delighted.

He would probably be best BPA , and for the OL where we need help (at any position in my opinion), plus we need the run game to get going ....no way we trade up for a OG but I personally would be tempted. Hope they don't reach for an average OT

(02-19-2018, 11:50 AM)Au165 Wrote: Nelson is by far the safest pick in the draft, the question becomes who is willing to take a guard in the top 10? If he starts sliding to the bottom side of the top 10 I'd consider going up for him just to ensure we get a bona fide starter day 1.

(02-19-2018, 08:49 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: A lot of people are calling Nelson one of the most talented players in the draft, just that guard is undervalued making it possible he falls a little lower. 
Do you disagree with that sentiment?

Fitzpatrick and Edwards not making the list is a little surprising as well.

(02-19-2018, 09:36 AM)sonofstat Wrote: I'm up for drafting a safety high but I don't know about James...yes, he's an amazing athlete but I want a true , ball hawk center fielder type.

(02-19-2018, 11:21 AM)Goalpost Wrote: That would be more along the lines of Minkah Fitzpatrick.    

James will be an interesting follow at the combine though.  

(02-20-2018, 09:35 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Minkah is a CB at the NFL level Imo. He can play fs as well which makes him.higher than the CBS who are better than him. But most of the time he'll be a CB.