(03-05-2018, 06:08 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Tough to blame the Ravens. He held all of the cards. It was probably the most perfect way for things to break out for a player entering free agency in the history of the NFL.

(03-05-2018, 06:23 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: You sound like a Raven's fan. Oz gambled by not signing him earlier, low balling him and put himself in that situation so 100% on the wizard. Huge mistake,  5 + year hu.

Huge mistake and mistake clock continues to run...

Oz was great at one time, but the last 5 years he sucked at his job

(03-05-2018, 06:47 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: It was a no-win situation.  Franchise quarterbacks do not grow on trees, so even if you don't sign Flacco, you risk several years of mediocrity because it might take that long to find an adequate replacement.  And Flacco had just demonstrated that season that he might be developing into what they hoped he'd be.

In hindsight it was definitely the wrong decision, but the alternative might not have been much better.

(03-07-2018, 07:33 AM)ballsofsteel Wrote: A Super Bowl MVP. Yup, he is real terrible. He gave Baltimore a ring. The only ring the Bungals have is around their bathtub.

(03-07-2018, 03:45 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Yeah, the Ravens' current situation kind of seems like one most Bengals fans would love to have, especially the older ones.  After what they've been through I'd imagine most would be willing to endure a period of mediocrity (which is still superior to their 90s) in exchange for a SB win ...

(03-08-2018, 08:47 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: No doubt. Most Bengal fans would gladly exchange the last twenty years with the Ravens you would think.

(03-09-2018, 09:26 AM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: You’d think, but the lure of having a false sense of superiority seems to be pretty strong for some of them (see the op).

(03-10-2018, 11:34 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Wait, so are you still trying to falsely argue that his contract has prevented the Ravens from performing well or are you now trying to claim you called the whole time that he would play poorly (outside of 2014) after getting paid?

I gave up defending Flacco last season, but that doesn't prevent me from acknowledging a team wide issue that extends beyond QB. Other teams are finding studs at WR and Ozzie is still defaulting to just drafting Bama defensive players while our TEs are all hurt or using drugs. Our play calling is garbage. You have someone with a canon for an arm and you're calling 2-5 yard passes. To Flacco's defense, his 2nd half of the season was far better than his first with 10 TDs to 3 picks compared to 8 to 7). Hopefully it improves, but with our OC remaining, I don't see it changing too much. The team has been very fortunate to get pretty impressive performances out of running backs since Ray Rice's exile (Collins and Forsett)

(03-13-2018, 10:52 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The extra 10 million a year could have signed better players the past few years, that was my point. It was not just the massive deal, it was the lack of any exit strategy if something went south. Ozzie did it was Rice, Flacco and Pita.

(03-13-2018, 11:21 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I've been pretty critical of Ozzie recently, but are you attempting to give him flack for Rice and Pitta?

(03-13-2018, 10:49 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: A shitty decision maker of late was what the thread was about and signing a very bad contract with Flacco, who said anything about Ravens record past 20 years? Ozzie was gold, I said so many times, but then he got old and stupid and stayed too long like a lot of the greats.

(03-17-2018, 11:51 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Yes, he did not learn how to structure deals with an out clause si minimal impact when player screws up. MB is the master at managing the dead money cap hits. Put Ozzie ability to find talent with MB's ability to manager salaries and dead money, the Steeler's would be challenged more in this division.

(03-05-2018, 06:47 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: It was a no-win situation. Franchise quarterbacks do not grow on trees, so even if you don't sign Flacco, you risk several years of mediocrity because it might take that long to find an adequate replacement. And Flacco had just demonstrated that season that he might be developing into what they hoped he'd be.

In hindsight it was definitely the wrong decision, but the alternative might not have been much better.

(04-01-2018, 08:40 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: This would make a lot more sense if Oz had anything other than a Cinderella postseason to go off of. Foles just won a SB, but you don't see Philly groveling at his feet. Flaccos contract was a honeymoon/infatuation phase. It was ass then, and it's definitely ass now.