(04-15-2018, 04:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: This is based in politics, but I don’t think it has to go in P&R. It’s more about decency.

My daughter is 21. A senior at OSU and is a hostess at a restaurant. After work she was having a drink with a co-worker at the bar and he asked her what was wrong with Cincinnati? She asked what he meant. He said the named a highway after Ronald Reagan. She said I dont know. I think maybe he was a nice guy and a lot of people thought he was a good president. Then she said the guy started tearing into her telling her what an evil person he was and how he was the worst president ever. She’s like uhhh I was born 8 years after he left office and I don’t pay much attention to politics, but he just kept going on.

What I want to do, and know I can’t, I’d drive up there and tell him to shut his fat face. So I created a stupid thread instead.

Please I’m not talking about liberals here, just the actions of one man that ***** me off and I can’t and shouldn’t do anything about it.

(04-15-2018, 08:06 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: For a 30pk, I can take care of this for you? If you were a Steeler fan it would cost you $10,000.

(04-15-2018, 04:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: This is based in politics, but I don’t think it has to go in P&R. It’s more about decency.

My daughter is 21. A senior at OSU and is a hostess at a restaurant. After work she was having a drink with a co-worker at the bar and he asked her what was wrong with Cincinnati?  She asked what he meant. He said the named a highway after Ronald Reagan. She said I dont know. I think maybe he was a nice guy and a lot of people thought he was a good president. Then she said the guy started tearing into her telling her what an evil person he was and how he was the worst president ever.  She’s like uhhh I was born 8 years after he left office and I don’t pay much attention to politics, but he just kept going on.  

What I want to do, and know I can’t, I’d drive up there and tell him to shut his fat face. So I created a stupid thread instead.

Please I’m not talking about liberals here, just the actions of one man that ***** me off and I can’t and shouldn’t do anything about it.

(04-15-2018, 08:44 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: While his position is defensible, talking politics with unwilling (which from your account your daughter certainly seemed) co-workers is not. 

Doubt it merits a reaction from you. I'm sure your daughter will pull the plug on future encounters with him outside the workplace. 

(04-15-2018, 08:59 PM)michaelsean Wrote: No it doesn’t require a reaction from me, but it doesn’t stop me from wanting to. Which would be a mistake. She’s 21 and needs to deal with non-threatening things like this. And she’s fine. The only reason she called me is because she wanted to make sure she didn’t say anything offensive. I assured her saying she thought he was supposedly nice and a lot of people liked him was not offensive to any normal person.

I get this is a pretty silly thread, and I’d probably delete it if I could.  I literally just wanted to vent.

(04-15-2018, 08:07 PM)michaelsean Wrote: But what if the guy were a Steeler fan?

(04-15-2018, 10:48 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I think this thread is fine here so long as the conversation is concerning the interaction between michaelsean's daughter and the co-worker and similar situations rather than on the merits of any political figure or party.

That said up front, I think this is a good discussion to have: When has interjecting politics into a conversation gone too far?

In my job, I have to visit homes and commercial businesses all of the time. Every once in awhile, one of the owners will start trying to talk politics with me. I don't really appreciate that when I'm on the job, regardless of how similar or different their views are from my own. That's not what I am there for. I think that cornering contractors or vendors is a very insecure and low-class thing to do. It is also self-defeating. Presumably, someone does this to convince someone else that their views are best. But by approaching someone in this way, you basically convince them that you are a fool. And who wants to be involved with a cause favored by a fool.

Due to the nature of my work, my verbal interactions with people are extremely choreographed and rehearsed and focused on the information I need to obtain. When someone starts interjecting political comments in a conversation (usually the first time they bring it up is a 'feeler' to see how you will react), I ignore it. If they continue, here is what I do: I agree with everything they say. I'll nod my head "yes" or say "Good point". I'm not there to argue these points with this person at this time. And I never reveal any of my actual opinions. I'm there to do my job and go home. And I have found this is the best way to diffuse some people and get back on-track with the conversation I need to have with them.

I suppose this is what I would have done if I were in michaelsean's daughter's position, as well.

(04-16-2018, 01:34 AM)packerbacker Wrote: Right now it seems like nobody cares about politics and I say good riddance. Last year and the year before that is all people talked about and I basically told some people I don't want to talk about that stuff, I'm sick of it all. I was fired up at the time of the election but for the last year I haven't followed much of it. 2 years from now it ramps back up again, ugh.

(04-15-2018, 10:48 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I think this thread is fine here so long as the conversation is concerning the interaction between michaelsean's daughter and the co-worker and similar situations rather than on the merits of any political figure or party.

That said up front, I think this is a good discussion to have: When has interjecting politics into a conversation gone too far?

In my job, I have to visit homes and commercial businesses all of the time. Every once in awhile, one of the owners will start trying to talk politics with me. I don't really appreciate that when I'm on the job, regardless of how similar or different their views are from my own. That's not what I am there for. I think that cornering contractors or vendors is a very insecure and low-class thing to do. It is also self-defeating. Presumably, someone does this to convince someone else that their views are best. But by approaching someone in this way, you basically convince them that you are a fool. And who wants to be involved with a cause favored by a fool.

Due to the nature of my work, my verbal interactions with people are extremely choreographed and rehearsed and focused on the information I need to obtain. When someone starts interjecting political comments in a conversation (usually the first time they bring it up is a 'feeler' to see how you will react), I ignore it. If they continue, here is what I do: I agree with everything they say. I'll nod my head "yes" or say "Good point". I'm not there to argue these points with this person at this time. And I never reveal any of my actual opinions. I'm there to do my job and go home. And I have found this is the best way to diffuse some people and get back on-track with the conversation I need to have with them.

I suppose this is what I would have done if I were in michaelsean's daughter's position, as well.

(04-16-2018, 10:05 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Definitely the best approach.  I think she was just caught unawares by an offhanded question and threw out a guess.  Lesson learned.  

(04-15-2018, 04:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: This is based in politics, but I don’t think it has to go in P&R. It’s more about decency.

My daughter is 21. A senior at OSU and is a hostess at a restaurant. After work she was having a drink with a co-worker at the bar and he asked her what was wrong with Cincinnati?  She asked what he meant. He said the named a highway after Ronald Reagan. She said I dont know. I think maybe he was a nice guy and a lot of people thought he was a good president. Then she said the guy started tearing into her telling her what an evil person he was and how he was the worst president ever.  She’s like uhhh I was born 8 years after he left office and I don’t pay much attention to politics, but he just kept going on.  

What I want to do, and know I can’t, I’d drive up there and tell him to shut his fat face. So I created a stupid thread instead.

Please I’m not talking about liberals here, just the actions of one man that ***** me off and I can’t and shouldn’t do anything about it.

(04-16-2018, 01:34 AM)packerbacker Wrote: Right now it seems like nobody cares about politics and I say good riddance. Last year and the year before that is all people talked about and I basically told some people I don't want to talk about that stuff, I'm sick of it all. I was fired up at the time of the election but for the last year I haven't followed much of it. 2 years from now it ramps back up again, ugh.

(04-16-2018, 02:00 PM)jason Wrote: Why does Ezzard Charles have a street, but Aaron Pryor doesn't?