(04-30-2018, 04:16 PM)bengals67 Wrote: What are your views on Bengal management post draft?

I have been down on them since the Steeler playoff loss in 2015 and the refusal to immediately fire Marvin.

Last year's inaction on o line caused a debacle that was easily predicted with Piano man as o line coach, Bodine at center and Og at left tackle.

So to me, 2016 and 2017 were predictable completely wasted years.

I think this year they made great moves getting the LT and LB from Buffalo and drafting the best players for need.

I think our roster is way better today than it was a year ago assuming Fisher can step up at RT and with Pollack as o-line coach.

So  but for the continuing retention of Marv I am back on board.

If we have another year like last year Marv needs to go.

He Should have been fired several times already .

Even  though he has a two year contract, from a fairness perspective his long term of service entitles him to a one year severance so firing him with a year to go on contract should be an acceptable option.

I do not see how they can sell him to season ticket holders and fans or even players for another year with a 7-9 record or less than that in 2018.

(04-30-2018, 04:24 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: with the complete shit show our OL was last year we still won 7 games....

that's how you sell marv to the fans.

(04-30-2018, 06:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I am probably as big of a homer as you will find around here and even I thought Marvin should have been fired after last season.

I don't think he is near as bad as many people here.  He has a career winning record despite being handicapped by the worst owner in the league.  So he is not a bad coach at all.  But after 15 years and no playoff wins you get canned for back-to-back losing seasons.

(04-30-2018, 06:15 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: I was down for marvin leaving after last season as well.

I cant blame everything on him though    Something has definitely changed in the front office. 

(05-01-2018, 07:52 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I mean, Glenn - Boling - Price - Westerman/Redmond - Fisher is a decent starting line, but we're just one injury away from ***** Ogbuehi being on the field again and then the season is over again.

(05-01-2018, 07:52 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I am very happy with how this off season has gone.

That said, the offensive line is still a red flag to me.

I mean, Glenn - Boling - Price - Westerman/Redmond - Fisher is a decent starting line, but we're just one injury away from ***** Ogbuehi being on the field again and then the season is over again.

We really really could have used a good 3rd to 4th round tackle, like Crosby or perhaps Brown, who could just step in for a game or 2 (or longer) if necessary to stabilize after an injury.

Now we are essentially relying on no injuries anywhere on the line and no one underachieving at all (What if Glenn or Price struggles early?)

This feels like mismanagement of the Oline but maybe we sign a good veteran tackle after cuts in September, I don't know.

I know this was a weak OT class, but that doesn't change the weaknesses on your team and I worry that management is overlooking this problem and calling it solved with a single draft pick? Weird.

I guess we'll find out in September.

(05-01-2018, 08:32 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Signing a 3rd or 4th round tackle does nothing to stabilize the line if there is an injury.  They are not going to step in and be productive in their first year - just doesn't happen for mid to late round O lineman.  The Bengals appear to be in win mode now and will find some experience for depth in September.  I'd rather take a cast off with experience than a rookie for a few games on the O line.

(05-01-2018, 08:40 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: That's not entirely true. There are 3rd/4th round tackles like Daryl Williams, T. J. Clemmings, Julién Davenport and Will Holden who started in their rookie years.


It wasn't necessarily a good thing that they did because most of them were due to injuries to the starter, but that's the exact scenario I'm talking about.


That's all I'd be looking for. Someone who can sub in and not embarrass themselves.


And, let's be honest, there's no way any rookie would be worse than putting Ogbuehi back in. That guy is the definition of embarrassment at offensive tackle. At least to this point in his career.

(05-01-2018, 04:43 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: Management? They tried a tad better then usual going after Glenn and brown .

Marvin on the other hand I do not trust,I kind of look at him as our dusty baker of the bengals. I think his max potential is one playoff win. Reason being he says to much dumb stuff to make me think he's just not too bright. And that's super important in football is football intelligence. Marvin reminds me of that old man that is kind of ignorant ,he's like the grandpa coach.

(05-01-2018, 04:43 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: Management? They tried a tad better then usual going after Glenn and brown .

Marvin on the other hand I do not trust,I kind of look at him as our dusty baker of the bengals. I think his max potential is one playoff win. Reason being he says to much dumb stuff to make me think he's just not too bright. And that's super important in football is football intelligence. Marvin reminds me of that old man that is kind of ignorant ,he's like the grandpa coach.