(08-23-2018, 10:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Good grief, anyone watching this? The Brownies have 3 takeaways and a Safety already...….Eagles look shell shocked. Browns D looks good....

(08-24-2018, 09:12 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I watched a good bit of it and neither team even slightly impressed me ! The Browns D played decent I guess ? But I'm not sure how much of the 4 takeaways was good D and how much was just horrible Eagles O ?

(08-24-2018, 10:03 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I think a lot of it was poor play be the Eagles, but enough of it was good play by the Browns D that teams better not sleep on them.....

(08-25-2018, 11:43 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: could they get any worse though... i did think their WR core looked very thin after Landry and even if they have Goridon, not much depth at WR.  still not impressed with Njoku very little production last year , good hands but did not see very good route running.  Defense though they will be very improved i believe.  Possible winning 4 to 6 games.. im glad Steelers are there week 1, the buzz is loud for an improved year and with Bell sitting preseason, possible slow out of the gate they just might keep it close enough for a miracle win.

(08-25-2018, 11:43 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: could they get any worse though... i did think their WR core looked very thin after Landry and even if they have Goridon, not much depth at WR.  still not impressed with Njoku very little production last year , good hands but did not see very good route running.  Defense though they will be very improved i believe.  Possible winning 4 to 6 games.. im glad Steelers are there week 1, the buzz is loud for an improved year and with Bell sitting preseason, possible slow out of the gate they just might keep it close enough for a miracle win.

(08-23-2018, 10:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Good grief, anyone watching this? The Brownies have 3 takeaways and a Safety already...….Eagles look shell shocked. Browns D looks good....

(08-28-2018, 12:23 PM)kevin Wrote: The Browns have 1 win and 31 losses in last 2 seasons, and they were awful long before these seasons.  Every year I hear how great the Browns are going to be.  Even if the Browns made some improvements, they have a long climb up from 0-16 season just to reach 8-8 season.  They needed everything and the kitchen sink and it still might not help.  

The Eagles haven't won in preseason.  They haven't had Wentz at QB.  They guy they thought was solid as back-up has been awful.  I look for Eagles to be looking for a new back-up QB.  It's too early to predict doom for Super Bowl Eagles.  Wentz will probably come back OK.  Still, it's hard to repeat and win Super Bowl again.  I also see Cowboys, Redskins, Giants giving them hard games. 

If Browns start season 3-0 or even 2-1, then I will believe they are better, not until then.  I look for them to start season 0-3 or 1-2.  The Browns offense and defense was so bad last year that each week in Fantasy Football teams tried to grab free agents playing against Browns or defenses going against Browns.  A team this bad has to do a lot more before I'm convinced.  

As I say, every draft ESPN says how great Browns did which leads to every off season media and fans say how great Browns will be.  I've been hearing this every year, only to see Browns in last place every year.  I will only believe they can win regular season games, when they actually win regular season games.  Of course, I'm rooting for Bengals and I don't live in Cleveland.

Somebody had on this site, Are Browns now better than Bengals.  This gets posted every year on Bengals site.  7-9 record is much better than 0-16.  If Bengals blocking improves they can improve on 7-9 to a play-off record.  Browns however have to improve on 0-16 and 1-31.   No they aren't better than Bengals.