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Even the best days weren't that good... - THE PISTONS - 11-27-2018

How many times this year early on did our offense look good in the 1st half...scoring seemingly at will only to score 3 points in the 2nd half and not be able to move the ball.

That's playcalling and outdated coaching scheme.

I saw Bill Cowher talking about playcalling and he talked about not blitzing at all in the 1st half then blitzing like crazy in the 2nd half. Basically good teams come out with 2 game plans...one in the 1st half and another in the 2nd half.

It seems like we don't do that, but also teams do that a lot against us...and we can't adjust.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - fredtoast - 11-27-2018

………………...1st half...…….2nd half
v Colts...……….10...…………..24
v Phins…………. 0...…………..27
v Ravens...…… 7...…………...14
v Browns...….. 7...…………….13


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - THE PISTONS - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:19 AM)fredtoast Wrote: ………………...1st half...…….2nd half
v Colts...……….10...…………..24
v Phins…………. 0...…………..27
v Ravens...…… 7...…………...14
v Browns...….. 7...…………….13

It seems to me we've played 11 games...


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - fredtoast - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:21 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It seems to me we've played 11 games...

We have.

And if we had scored more points in the second half of every game you would be squealing about how Marvin sucks because the team is slow to get started.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - THE PISTONS - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:23 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We have.

And if we had scored more points in the second half of every game you would be squealing about how Marvin sucks because the team is slow to get started.

You're so in defend Marvin mode right now aren't you? My criticism isn't even about him.

It's Lazor. He's the OC.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - BengalChris - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:23 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We have.

And if we had scored more points in the second half of every game you would be squealing about how Marvin sucks because the team is slow to get started.

Boy do you just love to argue.

If I said the sky was blue, you would produce a picture of a sunset and say, "is that blue?"


Mike Brown sucks. Marvin Lewis sucks. Hue Jackson sucks. There's no way to disguise it any more. These fellows have to go, the lot of them. All evidence has been submitted and weighted and the verdict is that they must all go. No further explanation is necessary or warranted in this case. All appeals are hereby denied with the simple response of, "view the evidence".


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - motoarch - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:19 AM)fredtoast Wrote: ………………...1st half...…….2nd half
v Colts...……….10...…………..24
v Phins…………. 0...…………..27
v Ravens...…… 7...…………...14
v Browns...….. 7...…………….13

Now subtract the points either directly scored by the defense or fasilitated by the d giving the offense back the ball with short field position.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - ochocincos - 11-27-2018

In 2018, here are the points scored each quarter per game:
1Q: 5.4 (12th in league)
2Q: 8.2 (13th in league)
3Q: 4.4 (21st in league)
4Q: 7.2 (15th in league)

Points scored each half per game:
1H: 13.5 (10th in league)
2H: 11.5 (18th in league)


Opponent scoring against Bengals by quarter per game:
1Q: 4.7 (14th in league)
2Q: 14.5 (last in league)
3Q: 6.5 (27th in league)
4Q: 5.7 (8th in league)

Opponent scoring against Bengals by half per game:
1H: 19.3 (31st in league)
2H: 12.3 (20th in league)

Source - https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stats/


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - Nately120 - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 01:10 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You're so in defend Marvin mode right now aren't you? My criticism isn't even about him.

It's Lazor. He's the OC.

I'm not too in tune with Lazor's career, but I feel like the most noteworthy thing on his resume is making Ryan Tannehill better by leaving Miami.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 11:55 AM)ochocincos Wrote: In 2018, here are the points scored each quarter per game:
1Q: 5.4 (12th in league)
2Q: 8.2 (13th in league)
3Q: 4.4 (21st in league)
4Q: 7.2 (15th in league)

Points scored each half per game:
1H: 13.5 (10th in league)
2H: 11.5 (18th in league)


Opponent scoring against Bengals by quarter per game:
1Q: 4.7 (14th in league)
2Q: 14.5 (last in league)
3Q: 6.5 (27th in league)
4Q: 5.7 (8th in league)

Opponent scoring against Bengals by half per game:
1H: 19.3 (31st in league)
2H: 12.3 (20th in league)

Source - https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stats/



Damn.....3rd quarters are rough on this team.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - THE PISTONS - 11-27-2018

The Browns game actually pumped up our 2nd half numbers a decent bit.


RE: Even the best days weren't that good... - KillerGoose - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 12:06 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm not too in tune with Lazor's career, but I feel like the most noteworthy thing on his resume is making Ryan Tannehill better by leaving Miami.

He had the exact same issues in Miami. He would leave the run very easily and quickly while being rather uncreative in his playcalling.