(05-09-2019, 09:42 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I occasionally read on the boards that changing coaches will help player development. Kind of like ZT will sprinkle his magic fairy dust over the roster and our Madden ratings will raise from 59 to 73.

This isn't new. Last year, Pollack was expected to do the same thing with the offensive line. It's really hard to compare the work he did though because the line had 4 new starters (Hart/Redmond/Price/Glenn). The line was slightly better than the year before, but still a bottom 5 offensive line.

Then, there was Austin. He was brought in to revive the defense after Guenther left and we saw that disaster unfold. The thing is, Austin was fairly well regarded around the league as a young defensive mind.

Then, Lazor took over for Bratkowski. Once, again...let the lazor show begin! The offense was good at times early last year, but when Eifert got hurt the wheels came off.

What improvements can we realistically expect as far as player development from these new coaches? Should we expect 800 yards from Ross? 100 Tackles from Jefferson? 6 sacks from Billings?

(05-09-2019, 12:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't see coaching making that big of a difference in player development, but I hope to see numbers improve across the board due to better scheme.

(05-09-2019, 12:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Coaching matters and there's little doubt about it. Has ZT pushed the right buttons with the staff ? Hard to say at this point.

But I believe even taking it a step further ZT and Co. need to change the culture here, this team has to learn how to win ! We've all seen ML standing on the sidelines with the 1,000 yard stare going on watching yet another Bengals implosion with no idea how to stop the bleeding, anytime the heat was truly on.

Can ZT and staff give this team the confidence they never had under ML ?

(05-09-2019, 01:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I think all this talk of "culture" and "motivation" and "pushing buttons" is mostly BS.

If a team is getting beaten on the field the coach has to make some change in scheme or personnel.  I don't believe jumping up and down and saying "Yipee!! You can do it!" or pitching a hissy fit makes any difference at all.  It might help some high school kids, but I don't see it working with grown men.

There have been great coaches who were very fiery and there have been great coaches who were stoic.  There have been terrible coaches who were very emotional and terrible coaches who were very stoic.  At the NFL level coaching is about being smarter not about emotional speeches or squealing louder.

The only way a coach can motivate a team is to show them that he has the brains to help them win.  And the best coaches win in the week before a game instead of on the sidelines.

(05-09-2019, 01:35 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I disagree, fear is a huge motivator. Fear of losing playing time, fear of losing the game, fear of losing respect of your coaches and teammates and ultimately losing your income/job if you do not perform.

(05-09-2019, 01:35 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think BB is a master at development of players, holding accountability and motivating his players by fear and positive reinforcement.

(05-09-2019, 12:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Coaching matters and there's little doubt about it. Has ZT pushed the right buttons with the staff ? Hard to say at this point.

But I believe even taking it a step further ZT and Co. need to change the culture here, this team has to learn how to win ! We've all seen ML standing on the sidelines with the 1,000 yard stare going on watching yet another Bengals implosion with no idea how to stop the bleeding, anytime the heat was truly on.

Can ZT and staff give this team the confidence they never had under ML ?

(05-09-2019, 12:56 PM)Sweetness Wrote: This. McVay isn't some amazing wizard who magically made the Rams bigger, faster, and stronger. He just has a good scheme that uses his players to the best of their specific abilities. He doesn't force people to play outside of their role. Fisher, like Marvin, was archaic and didn't evolve his scheme with the times or players. 

Obviously it's not all on them but they also employ the coaches who implement the scheme. The hope is Taylor and his hires will put players in better places to succeed versus magically making them better through coaching. 

(05-09-2019, 01:44 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The players already know all of this.  


BB has a lot of draft picks and free agents that flop.  What did he get out of Haynesworth and Ocho?

BB wins because he is smarter than other coaches not because he benches players more often or yells louder.  Players have more confidence playing under BB because BB is smarter, not because he "pushes their buttons" better. 

The only way to get players to "believe they can win" is to win.  It is that simple.  Every coach on the planet tells his players they can win, but it is meaningless if they don't win.

(05-09-2019, 09:42 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I occasionally read on the boards that changing coaches will help player development. Kind of like ZT will sprinkle his magic fairy dust over the roster and our Madden ratings will raise from 59 to 73.

This isn't new. Last year, Pollack was expected to do the same thing with the offensive line. It's really hard to compare the work he did though because the line had 4 new starters (Hart/Redmond/Price/Glenn). The line was slightly better than the year before, but still a bottom 5 offensive line.

Then, there was Austin. He was brought in to revive the defense after Guenther left and we saw that disaster unfold. The thing is, Austin was fairly well regarded around the league as a young defensive mind.

Then, Lazor took over for Bratkowski. Once, again...let the lazor show begin! The offense was good at times early last year, but when Eifert got hurt the wheels came off.

What improvements can we realistically expect as far as player development from these new coaches? Should we expect 800 yards from Ross? 100 Tackles from Jefferson? 6 sacks from Billings?

(05-09-2019, 01:55 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Lazor replaced Zampese not Brat.

I'm trying to believe the coaches when they say they will unleash Ross. I'm predicting 600 yards and 5 TDs. I know that's not "unleashing" but I think it's a more realistic prediction given he's like 4th in the pecking order as a receiver. I think between Hubbard and Willis we see at least 9 sacks. I think Billings gets 4 sacks. If Sample is truly used a good amount, I think he'll have 300-400 yards and 3-5 TDs. I think Pratt will see more playing time over Jefferson due to his ability in the run game.

(05-09-2019, 01:54 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The player already know all of this is BS. Greta coaches remind their employees their job is on the line when they need to motivate them.