(07-06-2019, 11:23 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: It was a fan email question to a MLB writer who responded not going to happen unless the team collapses in the next 3 weeks. Also predicted that the team would be buyers if they are near contention at the end of the month. Settle down, don’t be part of 85% who only read headlines.


“Do you think the Reds will sell high on Yasiel Puig or keep him and try to re-sign him?
-- Tim T.

Unless the Reds take a big nosedive after they return from the All-Star break, I can’t see them selling Yasiel Puig -- or anybody. Despite being at the bottom of the National League Central as of Friday, they are 41-44 and only 3 1/2 games out of first place. There isn’t a second-place team in another division that's that close. With ownership being as competitive as it is and the front office trying to create a winning culture under manager David Bell, waving a white flag and selling would highly irritate a win-starved fanbase.

At the least, I could see president of baseball operations Dick Williams and general manager Nick Krall standing pat. But if the Reds are still contending, they should be buyers. They could use additional bullpen help and perhaps another bat.”

https://www.mlb.com/reds/news/inbox-what-is-reds-plan-for-yasiel-puig-at-deadline

(07-06-2019, 11:54 AM)kevin Wrote: Thank You. That is good to hear.  That is good to hear.  

I saw what Dave Parker did when he came to Reds, and I'm telling the younger fans Puig is doing as much or more.  Both right fielders very comparable in that they are big men that play good D, great arms in right.  At the plate they give you power and Tony Perez clutch hitting with men on base.  On the bases they are Pete Rose very heads up taking the extra base and more speed than you would thing for big guys. 

The innings Roark eats are huge.  Go into a baseball site where you can pull up last 3 years total, 2016, 17, 18.  Then click on most innings. You will find that in the last 3 years Roark is near the top in most pitched innings with a 3 something ERA.  In 2019 he is eating innings for Reds.  The bullpen needs that.  Yes, maybe we could use more bullpen, who couldn't.  What is making the Reds better in 2019 is Reds finally have starters going deeper into ballgames.  You can not bring the pen in every game in the 3rd or 4th inning as Reds were last few years. 

THANKS....That is good to hear....Reds.com headline was SHOULD REDS TRADE PUIG AT DEADLINE....That was not a good headline to see this Saturday morning with Reds so close to First Place. ....Reds should not be trading anybody.  The chemistry of a team is fragile.  Plus they might get Gennett and Wood going, and there are your extra bat and pitcher, plus guys in minors come September. 

If Reds would make play-offs, and I thought of this in 1990 season.  You don't use 5 starters in play-offs.  That means your bullpen gets stronger because some starters become bullpen.  If Wood comes back, Mahle could end up in pen.  If Reds make play-offs, another starter will join Mahle in the pen. Suddenly Reds have plenty of bullpen and no room for more.

As for hitting, Gennett is pretty gimpy still.  They should platoon him and ease him back. They have Dietrick and Farmer and others needing playing time.  Ervin and Senzel but still need to play Winker now and then.  The Reds have great depth if Gennett and Wood start playing more.   However not enough depth to trade a Dave Parker type Puig,  Reds are not close to being that deep in talent.

(07-06-2019, 03:29 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Puig will stay and Roark will be traded is my opinion.  Unless Wood has another set back.  

(07-06-2019, 03:44 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Only way Roark goes anywhere is if they fall apart in the next couple of weeks.

(07-06-2019, 04:10 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I just don’t see how anyone still has an ounce of faith that Wood will come in and be a productive starter this year. He’s only had about 5 setbacks in the last year. It would be a PR disaster if the Reds trade off assets while in the thick of the race, especially after all of these last place finishes. They’ll have to be at least 7-8 games out of the wildcard race to sell anything. I still think they’ll pickup some relief help.

(07-06-2019, 06:20 PM)samhain Wrote: No chance anyone gets traded unless they tank for the rest of July.  If anything, I could see them adding a bat or bullpen arm for the division/wild card race

(07-06-2019, 04:14 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Wood starts rehab assignment today.  Hope he does well.   

(07-06-2019, 04:10 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote:  It would be a PR disaster if the Reds trade off assets while in the thick of the race,

They’ll have to be at least 7-8 games out of the wildcard race to sell anything. I still think they’ll pickup some relief help.

(07-06-2019, 06:20 PM)samhain Wrote: No chance anyone gets traded unless they tank for the rest of July.  If anything, I could see them adding a bat or bullpen arm for the division/wild card race.

(07-06-2019, 07:14 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I agree. Their not trading Puig. Starving Reds fans would be upset.

(07-14-2019, 10:00 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I guess I'm on the opposite side of this discussion.

I'd have no issue with the Reds trading Puig as long as they get a major league ready player in return for him. Not some low A ball guy who might make it, but a player who will help next season.

The reasoning is kinda simple. Ervin is showing he can start, Senzel is the real deal and Winker is a solid OFer as well. Puig is a damn nice bat to have, but he's gone at the end of the season for free anyways. I'd move him for a piece that allows you to remain in the division hunt next season and let the other 3 guys start in the OF and avoid the platooning and trying to get everyone enough ABs

(07-15-2019, 12:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think a more realistic expectation is Puig finishes the year but leaves in the offseason for a more lucrative contract.
The Reds will promote Ervin to play RF full-time. They then have a nice young group of Winker, Senzel, and Ervin for the OF.

As for Roark, I'm not sure on his long-term future. He currently makes $10 mill, which is pretty cheap nowadays for a SP who is 2nd/3rd in a rotation. I'd expect he'll see a pay increase to around $15-20 mill a year. The Reds have Roark, Wood, and DeSclafani all set for FA after this season, so they might want to pay the best of that group. However, Roark is the oldest SP out of that group at 32 years old.

(07-15-2019, 02:55 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I agree that is probably what they will do with the outfield but what do you think they should do? If they do go that route, it leaves more money for the pitching but Ervin and Winker are both risky for production. I do want to see Ervin get an extended shot soon though!

(07-15-2019, 03:10 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Risky for production? You can say that about any young player coming up. You won't know for sure until you put them out there on a longer-term basis. If you give Puig a big contract, what do you do with Ervin/Winker?

Besides, what is bad about Winker? Batting average?
If that's the concern, baseball is moving more towards OPS rather than BA. Winker's career OPS is .831, which is one of the highest on the team. It's not some sub-.700 like Iglesias or Peraza have.