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Trade talks with Falcons? - SunsetBengal - 07-21-2019 I just saw this posted, and found it to be quite interesting. We have speculated, and kicked around the idea of the Bengals making a trade, but I don't think any of us had Giovanni Bernard tagged as trade leverage. In the event that it's a player for player trade, who do you want from the Falcons in exchange for Gio? https://www.nflchatter.com/2019/07/21/falcons-in-trade-talks-with-the-bengals/?fbclid=IwAR35Qxw1R3InmtKpzLlsyPnniCOL0jSEgUTSMAwU1v2YyIJmUS0A7_4vTCE Quote:The Falcons lost Tevin Coleman to free agency. With that departure, the offense is missing the production of a back who had 167 rushing attempts and 44 targets while totaling nine touchdowns. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - GreenCornBengal - 07-21-2019 Do they have lineman or LBs that can improve our roster? The article basically talks about a desire for Gio from the Falcons... doesn't seem to give any insight in any interest in the other direction. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - HarleyDog - 07-21-2019 I would be ok with it as long as it’s an immediate impact. But if all we walk away with is cash and a draft pick, then I don’t want to trade Gio. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - SunsetBengal - 07-21-2019 Here is a link to Atlanta's current depth chart. https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/ATL Quote:Pos No. Player 1 No Player 2 No Player 3 No Player 4 No Player 5 RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - J24 - 07-21-2019 Doubt it; Hobson was hinting at an extension for Bernard. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - fortyyearfan - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 11:53 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I just saw this posted, and found it to be quite interesting. We have speculated, and kicked around the idea of the Bengals making a trade, but I don't think any of us had Giovanni Bernard tagged as trade leverage.To me,being a 50 year fan,the way this works for us,we would have to get a top notch starting offensive lineman and a quality backup from them as Gio is a starter anywhere in the nfl.Now with that being said, what we need for sure is offensive linemen and good ones,we do not need a future draft pick or cash,we need linemen and or a top linebacker and I mean a top one.When you start talking about a trade for a top running back and he is,and I do not want to see him go,UNLESS it is a super deal for us.Hopefully ZT sees someone on their team that fits us,and we shall see,but I do believe we are in the mix for SOMEONE that can help us NOW.We have really solid running backs just waiting to play,like the ANDERSON man.He is the real deal and Joe Mixon loves this guy,and I believe he will return to form given the chance. Its going to be interesting. :andy: I think something will happen in next week,as ZT wants who ever it is here NOW. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - fortyyearfan - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 12:34 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Doubt it; Hobson was hinting at an extension for Bernard. Does anyone on here know if they contacted us or did we contact them ??? And why the Falcons? RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - fortyyearfan - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 12:16 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I would be ok with it as long as it’s an immediate impact. But if all we walk away with is cash and a draft pick, then I don’t want to trade Gio. Well said Harley!!!!!! :andy: RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Bengalitis - 07-21-2019 Gio is a keeper, the Falcons can scoop any rookie they want from our Practice Squad. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Trademark - 07-21-2019 Please no, don’t wanna lose Gio RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - HarleyDog - 07-21-2019 I like Gio, but we have depth at RB. As much as i would hate to see him go, it makes sense. However, Falcons OL was nothing special last year so not sure how trading for a OL guy would help except getting depth. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-21-2019 Jake Matthews? RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Bengalitis - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 01:08 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I like Gio, but we have depth at RB. As much as i would hate to see him go, it makes sense. However, Falcons OL was nothing special last year so not sure how trading for a OL guy would help except getting depth. Without Gio, we have no reliable depth, just freshly acquired rookies. Watson was the supposed, planned depth that never worked out. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - HarleyDog - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 01:25 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: Without Gio, we have no reliable depth, just freshly acquired rookies. Watson was the supposed, planned depth that never worked out. Meh, IDK? I see your point but I think they will be fine. We can complain about the OL, LB's etc. However, if your not willing to do anything about it then whats the point in complaining? Like I said, I like Gio and he's been one of my favorites on the team. But if trading him increases your chances of winning, then why not? Having favorites and coveting them has been this teams demise for years. I say we make moves to win and improve this team now. Of course to be realistic, we are not going to get much for Gio. It's not like he's getting 1000yds per year. He's a solid backup RB, but that's all he's gonna be. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Whatever - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 11:53 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I just saw this posted, and found it to be quite interesting. We have speculated, and kicked around the idea of the Bengals making a trade, but I don't think any of us had Giovanni Bernard tagged as trade leverage. My guess is that it would be Ty Sambrailo . He's a swing T that can also play either G spot. He's only 27 and still has 3 years left on his deal, so he's more than just a rental. He started 4 games at RT last year and didn't allow a sack. He could compete with Hart at RT or possibly the LG spot if nobody runs away with it. Worst case, he's a quality backup. Losing Gio would suck, as he's a good player and a great guy, but he's in a contract year and we also have a lot of our young core guys coming up. He's also hitting that age where RB's hit the wall. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - Whatever - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 12:45 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: Does anyone on here know if they contacted us or did we contact them ??? And why the Falcons? The Falcons contacted us about him, apparently. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - SunsetBengal - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 12:43 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: To me,being a 50 year fan,the way this works for us,we would have to get a top notch starting offensive lineman and a quality backup from them as Gio is a starter anywhere in the nw fl. Now with that being said, what we need for sure is offensive linemen and good ones,we do not need a future draft pick or cash,we need linemen and or a top linebacker and I mean a top one.When you start talking about a trade for a top running back and he is,and I do not want to see him go,UNLESS it is a super deal for us.Hopefully ZT sees someone on their team that fits us,and we shall see,but I do believe we are in the mix for SOMEONE that can help us NOW.We have really solid running backs just waiting to play,like the ANDERSON man.He is the real deal and Joe Mixon loves this guy,and I believe he will return to form given the chance. Its going to be interesting. :andy: I think something will happen in next week,as ZT wants who ever it is here NOW. I wouldn't be so sure of that bolded part. Gio has been forced into a RB1 situation a few times, over the years. Every time he's asked to carry the load, he get's dinged up, as his body cannot take the pounding of being a 3 down back. He is fantastic at what he is; A 3rd down, change of pace back that is also a dynamic receiver. As far as a player for player scenario, I think that seeing how the Falcon's lost their RB2, Telvin Campbell to injury, they are the team in need and obviously have to be the one's approaching the Bengals. That would lead me to think that the leverage is in the Bengals court. This might be a good time for the Bengals to find that 3rd starter capable Tackle, or to pick up another proven LB to complete that position group restructuring. Now, we all know that player for player trades are rare these days. So, for the Bengals it could be a chance to clear 4.5M in cap space, by getting something in return for Gio Bernard, as he will be UFA at the end of the season. So, maybe clear cap and gain draft capitol for next year? RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - SunsetBengal - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 01:51 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Meh, IDK? I see your point but I think they will be fine. We can complain about the OL, LB's etc. However, if your not willing to do anything about it then whats the point in complaining? Like I said, I like Gio and he's been one of my favorites on the team. But if trading him increases your chances of winning, then why not? Having favorites and coveting them has been this teams demise for years. I say we make moves to win and improve this team now. Of course to be realistic, we are not going to get much for Gio. It's not like he's getting 1000yds per year. He's a solid backup RB, but that's all he's gonna be. This is where I am on the situation, as well. Seems like drafting the two backs that they did this season kind of spelled the end of Gio, after this season, anyway. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - phil413 - 07-21-2019 (07-21-2019, 01:51 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Meh, IDK? I see your point but I think they will be fine. We can complain about the OL, LB's etc. However, if your not willing to do anything about it then whats the point in complaining? Like I said, I like Gio and he's been one of my favorites on the team. But if trading him increases your chances of winning, then why not? Having favorites and coveting them has been this teams demise for years. I say we make moves to win and improve this team now. Of course to be realistic, we are not going to get much for Gio. It's not like he's getting 1000yds per year. He's a solid backup RB, but that's all he's gonna be. This is right, you have to give to get. You may lose Gio in a year, so gambling on the backup runners vs the current backup OTs is the perspective. The Falcons aren't a good fit unless it's for a pick and you deal a pick for OL. Something like a Falcons 4th for Gio and then dealing their own 5th to the Cowboys for backup OT Cam Flemming. Dallas can move Conner Williams outside in case of injury...we start talking about the draft of one of out tackles are hurt. RE: Trade talks with Falcons? - bfine32 - 07-21-2019 Why they need Gio? They already have former Bengal great Brian Hill. |