(09-22-2019, 12:33 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I don't know. A training camp where these coaches supposedly emphasized fundamentals should be enough to make guys better. Instead, A LOT of players made mental errors against the 49ers.

It just looks like bad coaching...especially on defense. When you are down to your what 6th choice for DC, you probably didn't get a great candidate.

Free agency was lackluster too. Signing 2-3 upgrades would have really revamped the roster. What scares me is a lot of the guys they signed had ties to new coaches they brought in. So it appears that the coaches wanted these poor players.

(09-22-2019, 12:44 AM)thompson19osu Wrote: Hard part is to understand what we will get each week especially from the defense because they were absolutely fundamentally sound. Tackling overall was excellent, guys filling lanes and setting the edge, not falling for misdirection. Will be interesting to see what we get tomorrow.

(09-22-2019, 12:33 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I don't know. A training camp where these coaches supposedly emphasized fundamentals should be enough to make guys better. Instead, A LOT of players made mental errors against the 49ers.

It just looks like bad coaching...especially on defense. When you are down to your what 6th choice for DC, you probably didn't get a great candidate.

Free agency was lackluster too. Signing 2-3 upgrades would have really revamped the roster. What scares me is a lot of the guys they signed had ties to new coaches they brought in. So it appears that the coaches wanted these poor players.

(09-22-2019, 09:29 AM)bengaloo Wrote: The coaches will know what they have and what they need after a full season

(09-22-2019, 12:33 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I don't know. A training camp where these coaches supposedly emphasized fundamentals should be enough to make guys better. Instead, A LOT of players made mental errors against the 49ers.

It just looks like bad coaching...especially on defense. When you are down to your what 6th choice for DC, you probably didn't get a great candidate.

Free agency was lackluster too. Signing 2-3 upgrades would have really revamped the roster. What scares me is a lot of the guys they signed had ties to new coaches they brought in. So it appears that the coaches wanted these poor players.

(09-22-2019, 09:34 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote:

Forgot about him !!

(09-22-2019, 09:31 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Had to look up inculcate

(09-22-2019, 05:49 AM)TKUHL Wrote: I blame the players more. It’s the players not catching, tackling, blocking etc. these guys are pros they shouldn’t have to be taught how to tackle, catch and do on. No excuse for veterans to look as bad as they did in the SF game.also it makes no sense to say Brown, Tobin or the coaches have no idea what their doin yet the 7th DC option must not be any good. By that logic he’s just as good as their first option. Not sure what the deal was with the DC’s but maybe it’s the lack of talent on that side of the ball that drove them away.

(09-22-2019, 09:29 AM)bengaloo Wrote: The coaches will know what they have and what they need after a full season, and they will all be on the staff long enough to plan a good offseason next year. I dont feel like we had a staff in place who were familiar enough with what kind of players we had to even know how to address free agency properly. They didnt really know which players would fit better in their system or not. We have tons of potential but a lot of holes in critical areas. One offseason wasnt enough to address them all. But all that being said, if Jonah and Cordy were healthy we may have looked like a different team running the ball so far. We will never know, but its not like they didnt draft the best OT in the draft. They did what they cou8ld, but injuries bite.

(09-22-2019, 10:24 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Glenn is one of the worst run blocking tackles in football. I doubt that he will be a great Guard.

(09-22-2019, 09:31 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Had to look up inculcate

(09-22-2019, 11:10 AM)grampahol Wrote: I was never a big fan of rote learning. It's basically things like memorizing multiplication tables and the like. 

(09-21-2019, 11:55 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: It’s hard for players coached in bad technique to relearn and internalize good technique.  

(09-22-2019, 12:46 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The 49ers came up with a gameplan that the Bengals couldn't adapt to. Bottom line is we were outcoached and couldn't adapt.

You saw an inexperience coaching staff get worked over.

I'd say the Seattle game was a coaching loss too. Better playcalling here and there and we win that.

(09-21-2019, 11:55 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Mike Brown finally did the right thing and hired a new coaching staff and as much as it pains me to write this, we need to give the new coaches a chance to do their job and inculcate the proper fundamentals.  This process doesn’t happen overnight.  It’s hard for players coached in bad technique to relearn and internalize good technique.  

The Cincinnati Bengals did not slide from competitive to non-competitive overnight either.  The fall took place over several seasons and I suspect a restoration to consistently making the playoffs might be a year away.

However, making the playoffs is not good enough.  We all believe that.  Personally, I believe Cincinnati has a better long term competitive prognosis with Zac Taylor as head coach than I did with Marvin Lewis at the helm.