(10-01-2019, 12:51 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: I'm ready to trade Andy Dalton due to his lack of pocket awareness and being scared. He is not a confident leader. He will drop back and stand in one spot every time. With a bad line you gotta move step up do something. I think he's so scared he freezes. When the pocket collapses and his first look isnt there he has 3 options. #1 He instantly tucks the ball and looks down at the ground. #2 He takes his eyes off downfield huckers down and tip toes away from the pressure bracing for the hit. #3 He escapes the pocket after doing options #1 and #2 only to be able to throw it away.. now if you watch this awful line with Ryan Finley in there it doesn't look near as bad as what Andy makes it to be. Our o line sucks, but I put blame on Andy too for not giving them any help. The pocket has to be absolutely perfect so Andy can stand in one spot and throw? If you look at all the good qb's they all move in the pocket. Ryan Finley knows how to move in the pocket that's all that matter at this point. We all know it's time to move on from Andy either way and we need all the draft picks we can get at this point for a new o line. I think it would be a good move to trade Dalton and to see what we have in Finley so we can decide whether or not we need to draft a qb. We're 0-4. Playoffs are highly unlikely at this point especially with a below average qb behind a putrid offensive line. Trading Andy Dalton could be our best option at this point. Start Finley and see what we got.



FINLEY'S PRESEASON HIGHLIGHTS
https://youtu.be/UjVAtzaI0b8
https://youtu.be/QbAzIU2mlC0

(10-01-2019, 12:58 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: how to destroy a QB before they even get started...

make them a starter when you have no OL....

(10-01-2019, 12:57 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Trading Dalton requires a trading partner.  Dalton has good yardage stats so far this season because he's had to throw the ball 5,000 times, but otherwise he has not looked good.  Say whatever you will about it not being his fault entirely, but who's watching this team right now and chomping at the bit to get a hold of Dalton?

Start Dalton until they have been eliminated from playoff contention (which, mercifully, could happen as early as this month).  Once they're firmly out of the playoffs, give Finley and Dolegala the rest of the season to see what you have.

(10-01-2019, 01:00 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Dalton doesn't move. Finley does.

(10-01-2019, 12:57 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Trading Dalton requires a trading partner.  Dalton has good yardage stats so far this season because he's had to throw the ball 5,000 times, but otherwise he has not looked good.  Say whatever you will about it not being his fault entirely, but who's watching this team right now and chomping at the bit to get a hold of Dalton?

Start Dalton until they have been eliminated from playoff contention (which, mercifully, could happen as early as this month).  Once they're firmly out of the playoffs, give Finley and Dolegala the rest of the season to see what you have.

(10-01-2019, 01:24 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Now I’m not saying Andy Dalton is the long term solution in Cincinnati at quarterback — because he probably isn’t — but before putting Ryan Finley in a game this fact must be taken into account:  Ryan Finley has never played a single snap against a first team NFL defense.

(10-01-2019, 12:57 PM)Big Boss Wrote:  who's watching this team right now and chomping at the bit to get a hold of Dalton?

(10-01-2019, 12:51 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: I'm ready to trade Andy Dalton due to his lack of pocket awareness and being scared. He is not a confident leader. He will drop back and stand in one spot every time. With a bad line you gotta move step up do something. I think he's so scared he freezes. When the pocket collapses and his first look isnt there he has 3 options. #1 He instantly tucks the ball and looks down at the ground. #2 He takes his eyes off downfield huckers down and tip toes away from the pressure bracing for the hit. #3 He escapes the pocket after doing options #1 and #2 only to be able to throw it away.. now if you watch this awful line with Ryan Finley in there it doesn't look near as bad as what Andy makes it to be. Our o line sucks, but I put blame on Andy too for not giving them any help. The pocket has to be absolutely perfect so Andy can stand in one spot and throw? If you look at all the good qb's they all move in the pocket. Ryan Finley knows how to move in the pocket that's all that matter at this point. We all know it's time to move on from Andy either way and we need all the draft picks we can get at this point for a new o line. I think it would be a good move to trade Dalton and to see what we have in Finley so we can decide whether or not we need to draft a qb. We're 0-4. Playoffs are highly unlikely at this point especially with a below average qb behind a putrid offensive line. Trading Andy Dalton could be our best option at this point. Start Finley and see what we got.



FINLEY'S PRESEASON HIGHLIGHTS
https://youtu.be/UjVAtzaI0b8
https://youtu.be/QbAzIU2mlC0

(10-01-2019, 02:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I believe there were 11 back up QBs who started this weekend.

Dalton is better than Flacco and Denver took him as their starter.

There are lots of team that would love to have Andy.  He is actually cheap for a starting QB.

(10-01-2019, 06:42 PM)Cicero Wrote: Anyone you put behind this offensive line will get killed. That’s basic football knowledge.

Andy played pro bowl level football with a competent line. I’m for moving him and several other players to start the rebuild but this idea that he is somehow the problem makes me question the football iq of some.

(10-01-2019, 02:48 PM)fred toast Wrote: There are lots of team that would love to have Andy.  He is actually cheap for a starting QB.

(10-01-2019, 06:42 PM)Cicero Wrote: Anyone you put behind this offensive line will get killed. That’s basic football knowledge.

Andy played pro bowl level football with a competent line. I’m for moving him and several other players to start the rebuild but this idea that he is somehow the problem makes me question the football iq of some.