(12-01-2019, 04:07 AM)RCBengalsFan Wrote: I’ve been thinking a lot lately about our horrid defense.  We’ve been bad for a couple years now, and I mean record setting bad. Anyways, I’ve been wondering how we could possibly even fix this and have no clue.  Players just aren’t producing.  What would it take for a scheme change to a 3-4? I wanted to see what the boards insight was as to which players could make that transition, or would we have to blow this thing up completely.  Also, would a 3-4 even help our problems?  Teams run and pass on us all day, maybe it’s time for a change? Discuss.

(12-01-2019, 05:15 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: We do not have the backers or personnel for 3-4.  

(12-01-2019, 05:15 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: We do not have the backers or personnel for 3-4.  

(12-01-2019, 04:07 AM)RCBengalsFan Wrote: I’ve been thinking a lot lately about our horrid defense.  We’ve been bad for a couple years now, and I mean record setting bad. Anyways, I’ve been wondering how we could possibly even fix this and have no clue.  Players just aren’t producing.  What would it take for a scheme change to a 3-4? I wanted to see what the boards insight was as to which players could make that transition, or would we have to blow this thing up completely.  Also, would a 3-4 even help our problems?  Teams run and pass on us all day, maybe it’s time for a change? Discuss.

(12-01-2019, 10:32 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: More LBs on the field with this roster would be even worse, if that is possible.

The talent at LB is a gaping hole in the middle of the defense and makes it easy for opposing teams.  They need two solid FA LBs and they would be vastly improved.  See what this roster was like with a healthy Burfict vs. without him. 

Now, Reuben Foster was a complete moron, but I can see why Marv wanted a first-round talent at LB over Ross based on how thin the LB corps was behind Burfict. 

(12-01-2019, 05:15 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: We do not have the backers or personnel for 3-4.  

(12-01-2019, 04:07 AM)RCBengalsFan Wrote: I’ve been thinking a lot lately about our horrid defense.  We’ve been bad for a couple years now, and I mean record setting bad. Anyways, I’ve been wondering how we could possibly even fix this and have no clue.  Players just aren’t producing.  What would it take for a scheme change to a 3-4? I wanted to see what the boards insight was as to which players could make that transition, or would we have to blow this thing up completely.  Also, would a 3-4 even help our problems?  Teams run and pass on us all day, maybe it’s time for a change? Discuss.

(12-01-2019, 10:42 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The best defenses in history ran a base 4-3 with occasional 3-4 “looks.”  The Purple People Eaters, the Doomsday Defense, the Steel Curtain, the ‘85 Bears, and the ‘00 Ravens all ran a base 4-3.  When Mike Zimmer was in Cincinnati, the Bengals had good to great defenses.

Currently the Bengals have neither the personnel nor the coaches to make any sort of switch to a base 3-4 defense.  Linebackers in a 3-4 scheme have to be sure tacklers and very fast; ours can be timed with a sundial.  Also, defensive tackles are not nose tackles; you can’t just move them over half a spot and say, “Do your thing, big guy.”

(12-01-2019, 01:39 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: If there was ever a time to change it would be now when there are not many players worth keeping on the roster.

(12-01-2019, 11:42 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: With our current personnel, switching to a 3-4 would be like trying to cram square pegs into round holes.  

Running an effective 3-4 requires having 4 good LBs, each with defined and specific skill sets.  Right now, the Bengals can't even field 3 average LBs with general skill sets.

(12-01-2019, 12:38 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: In a 3-4 the LB's are the stars of the defense.

I could not think of a worse fit for us than a 3-4. We basically play 2 LB's now and can't even find 2 good ones. We'd need to find 4.

(12-01-2019, 12:01 PM)Synric Wrote: The Bengals have been running alot of odd fronts this year which is a 34 scheme...They are using Hubbard and recently Lawson as 34 OLB.