(12-16-2019, 11:38 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Lose to the Dolphins, crush the Browns.

Or lose to both.

By no means should they beat both.

That would be absolutely catastrophic to the future of this franchise.

(12-16-2019, 12:01 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You guys act like we can just determine who we win against. We've been trying to win EVERY game this season and already lost to the Browns and some other bad teams.

Yeah the Browns are bad...but we're way worse.

It's not like our goal was to get the #1 pick all year and now we can actually win some games because we're that great.

(12-16-2019, 12:08 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The last time we played the Browns we outplayed them. This team is better than their record, especially now that the offensive line is healthy and looking like a semi-functional unit. 

I just don't want the Bengals and their fans to have suffered through this entire season only to catch the wind in their sails in the final two weeks and blow their chances at a franchise changing QB just for the sake of "morale."

(12-16-2019, 08:55 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I am fairly certain QB will be #1 but I have no interest in an EARLY WR, when there are much greater needs at G, OT, LB, S, and DE.  

Luckily, it is a very deep draft and perhaps the Bengals could get more outside speed in Rd 4 to be better prepared for AJ missing games.

(12-16-2019, 12:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We are absolutely not better than our record. We're able to run the ball now, but we can't score points.

Interestingly, when we had extremely low yardage early in the season, people were like 'points matter'.

Now that we're able to run and our yardage totals are better and our points are lower, people are like 'yards matter'.

It's great being a Bengals fan! Teams like the Dolphins, Giants, and Redskins are actually occasionally winning games late in the year. Wins are improvement. Having to sift through the stats to find increases, isn't.

(12-16-2019, 12:01 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You guys act like we can just determine who we win against. We've been trying to win EVERY game this season and already lost to the Browns and some other bad teams.

Yeah the Browns are bad...but we're way worse.

It's not like our goal was to get the #1 pick all year and now we can actually win some games because we're that great.

(12-17-2019, 03:44 AM)kevin Wrote: I agree Bengals are NOT better than their record and have NOT been losing on purpose for draft pick, that is last thing in players and coaches minds.  

I do think the Defense that was awful all 2018 and start of 2019 has improved under the coaching or whatever.  The Defense looks good for first time since 2017.  Now the offense still stinks.  However Miami and Cleveland are as bad as their records.   If Atkins, Dunlap, Dennard keep playing like they have second half of season, Bengals will finish 3-13.    

Actually, that would be a good thing if the Defense is back to playing good ball.  There are few draft rounds and if the Defense of Dunlap and others shows they are back to good ball,  we can focus draft on this awful offense. 

The Bengals Defense has been better than 2018.   You can see the Defense is better.  The problem is not only does the Offense not score, but they make many turnovers giving other teams free points which you can not blame on the Defense.   Our Offense is giving opposing teams more free points than the 10 some points a game they score for themselves.   Even pick 6's by Dalton and Finley every game.  Bengals offense scores more for the other teams than for themselves.   You take away all the offensive turnovers, and the Bengals Defense gives up few points.  It is Bengals offense giving up all the points and field position and games second half of 2019.  

So The Defense has turned it around from the Defense Disaster of 2018 coaching.   I think enough to beat Miami and Cleveland with Defense.   The offense could lose these games, but Mixon and Benard could have good games against them.   So 3-13 record is possible, thanks to the Defense playing better. If Dunlap and Company are flying to the ball as they have lately, Bengals win last 2 games.

(12-17-2019, 03:33 AM)kevin Wrote: If you factor in AJ Green not on this team come March,  how solid are we at WR compared to other teams ?  

(12-16-2019, 11:38 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Lose to the Dolphins, crush the Browns.

Or lose to both.

By no means should they beat both.

That would be absolutely catastrophic to the future of this franchise.

(12-17-2019, 10:05 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: ^This^

I hope the Dolphins are up on us 45-0 by halftime so I can quit sweating. Then I hope we break our foot off in the Browns ass, Hubbard face plants Baker Hayfield, 5 X. OBJ curls up in a fetal position at midfield. Landry comes over to ZT yelling come get me and so on.

(12-17-2019, 10:25 AM)jj22 Wrote: We are going to have to go defense sometime guys. We can't keep waiting until the 3rd round to address the D. Folks hate to hear it, but even after picking Burrow, it's going to take a couple drafts to fix this team. We just don't have enough picks and with Dalton playing bad, we aren't going to be able to trade him, and with Green injured and not playing in years it seems, no one is trading for him, which means we won't pick up any picks since they screwed up the trade deadline and didn't have any foresight into the worth of Dalton/Green this offseason.

Yea I wish we could go QB, WR, OT  early. But we are completely ignoring the Defense yet again with that strategy.

(12-17-2019, 11:02 AM)Bigcatfan Wrote: If the Bengals should some how win the last 2 games, it will be nice for the record but look at who we did win against, the Jets, and possibly the Dolphins & Browns. They don't exactly have stunning seasons either. I guess we have to look at it like this, somebody has to win the last 2 games.

(12-17-2019, 12:11 PM)PV Bengal Wrote: Nightmare Scenario ... Bengals win their last 2 games and wind up picking 3rd to 5th. Mikey is enamored with Burrow and gives up all our picks this year to move to #1.