(01-24-2020, 03:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I heard where there may not be any money "rolled over" to 2021 because there will be new rules under a new CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).

A lot of people here complain about the Bengals rolling over money every year, but the fact is that some teams did not roll it over every year like the Bengals.  And some years the Bengals actually spent OVER the league salary cap because they had cap space to roll over.  So I have never panicked about rolling over cap space.  But now Mike is looking at a one-time "wipe the books clean" chance to pocket all that unused cap space.

And it just happens to happen the one year we are absolutely 100% in re-build mode.  When Marvin first came in Mike loosened the purse strings and signed a few quality free agents.  Not a lot of huge stars, but solid starters (John Thornton, Bobbie Williams, Reggie Kelly, Tory James, Nate Webster, Duane Clemmons, Kevin Hardy) instead of scrap heap signings.

Hope Mike decides to spend it all instead of taking the chance to never have to spend it.

(01-24-2020, 03:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I heard where there may not be any money "rolled over" to 2021 because there will be new rules under a new CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).

A lot of people here complain about the Bengals rolling over money every year, but the fact is that some teams did not roll it over every year like the Bengals.  And some years the Bengals actually spent OVER the league salary cap because they had cap space to roll over.  So I have never panicked about rolling over cap space.  But now Mike is looking at a one-time "wipe the books clean" chance to pocket all that unused cap space.

And it just happens to happen the one year we are absolutely 100% in re-build mode.  When Marvin first came in Mike loosened the purse strings and signed a few quality free agents.  Not a lot of huge stars, but solid starters (John Thornton, Bobbie Williams, Reggie Kelly, Tory James, Nate Webster, Duane Clemmons, Kevin Hardy) instead of scrap heap signings.

Hope Mike decides to spend it all instead of taking the chance to never have to spend it.

(01-24-2020, 04:45 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I really hope they aren't allowed to carry over into 2021, at least for one year.
I want to see, as you mentioned, what Mike Brown does with the cap when he doesn't have that option.
You'd hope he goes ahead and spends it, but we'll see.

(01-24-2020, 03:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I heard where there may not be any money "rolled over" to 2021 because there will be new rules under a new CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).

A lot of people here complain about the Bengals rolling over money every year, but the fact is that some teams did not roll it over every year like the Bengals.  And some years the Bengals actually spent OVER the league salary cap because they had cap space to roll over.  So I have never panicked about rolling over cap space.  But now Mike is looking at a one-time "wipe the books clean" chance to pocket all that unused cap space.

And it just happens to happen the one year we are absolutely 100% in re-build mode.  When Marvin first came in Mike loosened the purse strings and signed a few quality free agents.  Not a lot of huge stars, but solid starters (John Thornton, Bobbie Williams, Reggie Kelly, Tory James, Nate Webster, Duane Clemmons, Kevin Hardy) instead of scrap heap signings.

Hope Mike decides to spend it all instead of taking the chance to never have to spend it.

(01-24-2020, 05:02 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: I do like the roll over system though... It makes those incentive heavy contracts more viable I think..

Say you sign AJ to a 1 year 18 mil dollar deal (not a tag)  but only 2 mil is gaurenteed and the rest is 1 mil per game played @ least 50% of the offensive snaps..)   now if he doesn't play every game that money cant ever be used. But had to be available.


but yes..  We should be spenders this year especially if we are letting go of Daltons contract for a rookie QBs  that gives us at least 1 Top teir or 2 almost top tier players

(01-24-2020, 05:28 PM)ochocincos Wrote: There is value in the ability to roll over. My view is that it's best utilized by going lighter for a couple years to stock up for a year or two to better go "all in" once team is ready to compete. I think the Bengals have hurt themselves by basically rolling over ~$10-15 mill year after year. It's felt like they have never been willing to go all in.

(01-24-2020, 11:56 PM)BrownAssClown Wrote: Hoping Mike Brown Spends that money Mr. Toast? You have more faith in Mr. Brown than I do.

(01-25-2020, 12:51 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Swiss Alps jaunts cost money.  I also heard Mike has a ranch of sorts in Montana.  The money will go to those.

(01-24-2020, 05:23 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: I have seen no evidence that Mike Brown will be conducting business any differently than he did prior to 2013 (the first year of minimum spending).
I would not expect MB to overpay any free agents this year, which is what it will take to get anyone of quality to come to Cincinnati due to our track record.  Actually, I believe we should see more of the same, which will be bargain bin FA's looking to hang on in the NFL.  

Because we have the number 1 pick (which should be Joe Burrow), I would not expect him to do much more.  ZT should have little influence over MB, especially with the record he put out in 2019.  The fans will be rightfully upset, the excitement of the draft will come and we will forget as usual.  Let's hope Burrow doesn't quit/give up like Carson did when MB refuses to help the team when he's in position to do so, as he has done in the past.

MB has never spent much money or taken much risk in bringing players to the Bengals.  It's not his style and he's too old to change now.  I'd pocket the money too if I was MB, because that's what he's good at, making money.  He sure as hell sucks at being a GM when it comes to fielding a winning football team.