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Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Sled21 - 03-19-2020
https://www.bengals.com/news/reports-bengals-cb-depth-multiplies-with-tnew-protege
Quote:The 26-year-old Alexander fits the profile the Bengals have been seeking in free agency: an experienced veteran who is heading into his second contract and fifth season as a relatively young player after taking more than 500 snaps last year. They came into free agency sucking wind on corner depth and are now breathing much easier as Waynes moves into one starting role with starters Dre Kirkpatrick and William Jackson III still in the fold and Alexander teaming with Darius Phillips in the slot.Doesn't sound to me like he's going anywhere....
That gives them three first-rounders in Kirkpatrick (2012), Waynes (2015) and Jackson (2016) to go with Alexander, a second-rounder out of Clemson in 2016.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - fredtoast - 03-19-2020
Jackson is on the last year of his contract. So one of these guys may be projected to take his place.
But Darius Phillips really looked good last year and we have brought in FOUR new CBs so far this off season. Seems like someone has to go this year.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Sled21 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Jackson is on the last year of his contract. So one of these guys may be projected to take his place.
But Darius Phillips really looked good last year and we have brought in FOUR new CBs so far this off season. Seems like someone has to go this year.
Yep, but it sounds like Kirkpatrick, WJIII are still the outside starters.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Au165 - 03-19-2020
I don't think Kirkpatrick makes it to the draft. To me it's them seeing if there are any takrrs after FA slows down or a cut but you aren't going to carry 3 boundary corners making that much money. Phillips has inside/outside flexibility as your first fill-in and with Kirkpatrick having no inside flexibility I just don't see a spot for him. I am wondering if they are waiting to cut him until the physicals are passed and they are officially signed.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Au165 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Yep, but it sounds like Kirkpatrick, WJIII are still the outside starters.
You aren't paying Waynes that much money to sit the bench and he isn't a slot corner. Someone is on their way out...
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Sled21 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: I don't think Kirkpatrick makes it to the draft. To me it's them seeing if there are any takrrs after FA slows down or a cut but you aren't going to carry 3 boundary corners making that much money. Phillips has inside/outside flexibility as your first fill-in and with Kirkpatrick having no inside flexibility I just don't see a spot for him. I am wondering if they are waiting to cut him until the physicals are passed and they are officially signed.
Could be, but I am not as certain as I was.....
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: I don't think Kirkpatrick makes it to the draft. To me it's them seeing if there are any takrrs after FA slows down or a cut but you aren't going to carry 3 boundary corners making that much money. Phillips has inside/outside flexibility as your first fill-in and with Kirkpatrick having no inside flexibility I just don't see a spot for him. I am wondering if they are waiting to cut him until the physicals are passed and they are officially signed.
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: You aren't paying Waynes that much money to sit the bench and he isn't a slot corner. Someone is on their way out...
Agreed and why was Dre selling his Bengals gear if he is sticking around? He be gone sooner or later.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Au165 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:53 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Could be, but I am not as certain as I was.....
I think it has something to do with the inability to do physicals. Dre is coming off an injury, we could have a trade in place for him that is held up for a physical. We could be holding him until we get Waynes officially signed just in case. There are reasons why he is here now, I just don't think he will be in a week or two.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Sled21 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:54 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Agreed and why was Dre selling his Bengals gear if he is sticking around? He be gone sooner or later.
Maybe he got new stuff. I'm not saying he's staying, I'm saying that article sounds like he's staying.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:55 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Maybe he got new stuff. I'm not saying he's staying, I'm saying that article sounds like he's staying.
It does, I understand that, just think its BS.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - yellowxdiscipline - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: You aren't paying Waynes that much money to sit the bench and he isn't a slot corner. Someone is on their way out...
Exactly, its gotta be Dre
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - lone bengal - 03-19-2020
Billon percent chance Kirkpatrick is gone lol. They will try to trade him until the last minute and eventually cut him. For one thing there not paying all those corners and only 3 can start. Which will be Jackson III and Wayne’s on the outside with Alexander in the slot and Phillips as depth with the draft coming up to possibly add another.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Au165 - 03-19-2020
For giggles I looked it up, if we DIDN'T cut Dre we would have 3 of the top 18 highest paid corners in the league between WJ3, Dre, Waynes.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - J24 - 03-19-2020
Dalton + W Jackson for Patriots 1st
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - bengals1969 - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 02:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: I don't think Kirkpatrick makes it to the draft. To me it's them seeing if there are any takrrs after FA slows down or a cut but you aren't going to carry 3 boundary corners making that much money. Phillips has inside/outside flexibility as your first fill-in and with Kirkpatrick having no inside flexibility I just don't see a spot for him. I am wondering if they are waiting to cut him until the physicals are passed and they are officially signed.
There are still some really good players unsigned, even Clowney. With the cap space the Bengals have now or could have with Dre's money, I have to believe they will still be active in FA, even for a big contract guy.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 03:43 PM)J24 Wrote: Dalton + W Jackson for Patriots 1st
Would rather trade them Kirkpatrick then WJ3. Wouldn't even have to be a first, I would be fine with a 3rd or do a straight up
player trade for Wynn or one of their Linebackers.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Yojimbo - 03-19-2020
I still think Dre is gone. Might need to give him a physical before they can trade or release him and teams aren’t allowed to do that right now.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - impactplaya - 03-19-2020
I rather trade WJ3.
He's has not really played up to expectations
Coming out of Houston
Dre has been hurt no argument there
Seems like though everytime I see Jackson
He's getting beat on a comeback route or a WR
Gets the inside position on him
He's not a big play CB.
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Essex Johnson - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 04:44 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I rather trade WJ3.
He's has not really played up to expectations
Coming out of Houston
Dre has been hurt no argument there
Seems like though everytime I see Jackson
He's getting beat on a comeback route or a WR
Gets the inside position on him
He's not a big play CB.
I disagree.. he was a top rated Corner 2 years ago.. had some injuries also.. last two years very few Def. players performed well.. it is more a unit thing than a individual thing...
RE: Tales of Kirkpatrick's departure premature??? - Okeana - 03-19-2020
(03-19-2020, 04:51 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I disagree.. he was a top rated Corner 2 years ago.. had some injuries also.. last two years very few Def. players performed well.. it is more a unit thing than a individual thing...
agreed we know what we have with Kirkpatrick and Jackson has a much higher ceiling.