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Your starting defense with what we have right now. - fredtoast - 04-05-2020 Give a base 3-4. And also the 5 DB scheme we will probably use a majority of the snaps. I think our MLBs have been playing less than 40% of the snaps in recent years. NT....Reader DE....Dunlap, Atkins OLB..Lawson, Hubbard ILB...Pratt, Bynes Saf...Bell, Bates CB....Jackson, Waynes Fifth DB (Phillips or Alexander) in for Hubbard with Pratt move to outside. The big hole I see is OLB. Hubbard and Lawson are both really good pass rushers, but at least one of the two edge LBs generally has to play coverage. I think we need more of a hybrid type OLB who can play coverage and still rush the QB when needed. Hubbard needs to be on the field but he can play some snaps at DE and rotate with Lawson at OLB. There really is no clear line between OLB and DE, but you can't have five guys that can't play coverage on the field at the same time very often. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Goalpost - 04-05-2020 We will be looking at more tweeners than we have in the past. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Bilbo Saggins - 04-05-2020 Wouldn't base be Big Nickel? I see: NT - Reader 3T - Atkins DE - Dunlap DE - Hubbard Mike - Pratt Sam - Bynes Big Nickel/Will - Bell CB - Waynes CB - Jackson FS - Bates SS - Williams Bell or Bynes would go out for Alexander against teams who lean on their slot receiver. Reader and Hubbard could rotate out for Glasgow and Lawson on 3rd and longs. I don't see any pure 3-4 OLBs on the roster. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - jj22 - 04-05-2020 33 has to be spent on a OLB (Baun) as it currently stands no doubt. To make the defensive overhaul complete. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - impactplaya - 04-05-2020 There isn't much left in regards to a OLB in free agency that Can cover. Mychal Kendricks is still unsigned . He's only 29. He had some productive years In the NFC. I expect the Bengals to draft 2 LBers. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - TecmoBengals - 04-05-2020 I'm convinced pick 33 is a LB or they have their eye on someone they coached in the Senior Bowl to draft during s rounds 3+. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - caneyoufeelit - 04-05-2020 (04-05-2020, 12:03 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Give a base 3-4. And also the 5 DB scheme we will probably use a majority of the snaps. I think our MLBs have been playing less than 40% of the snaps in recent years. Pretty solid run team. VErrrrrrrrrrry suspect in the pass game. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Sled21 - 04-05-2020 Problem with these scenarios, is none of you have Vonn Bell on the field. No way he's not starting. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - SunsetBengal - 04-05-2020 (04-05-2020, 01:14 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Problem with these scenarios, is none of you have Vonn Bell on the field. No way he's not starting. Actually, both examples given (Fred's 3-4 and bilbo's Big Nickel) have Bell listed. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Gdale_Bengal - 04-05-2020 33 they might get Baun. I think he can rush and cover and could defend the run some times too RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - fredtoast - 04-05-2020 (04-05-2020, 12:23 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: Wouldn't base be Big Nickel? I see: This makes more sense than a 3-4 to me. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Synric - 04-05-2020 Because teams are running 11 personnel (3WR 1RB 1TE) around 60% of the offensive packages you are more likely to see a 335 than a 344. That means you would have 4 guys on the line of scrimmage difference being one would be standing instead of hand down which would make him technically a linebacker. Dunlap and Hubbard both do that based on the alignment. One major issue still that needs addressed is a true 3 down stack linebacker. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - CJD - 04-05-2020 This is why Baun is a popular choice for the Bengals at 33. He is a pass rusher, but he has experience dropping back in college and scouts believe his athleticism projects to an off ball linebacker fairly well. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - SunsetBengal - 04-05-2020 Let's take a look at Baun. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zack-baun?id=32194241-5567-7316-c31c-c66079e71b79 Quote:Overview From what I'm reading, his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. I really like that in his strengths, they listed comfortable and fluid hips in his drops. It also seems to me that with a 6.50 grade, that he can develop or be coached past those weaknesses. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - J24 - 04-05-2020 DE- Dunlap 3T- Atkins NT- Reader DE- Hubbard 3-4- Bynes LB- Pratt NB- Alexander CB-Jackson CB-Waynes FS- Bates SS- Bell Sub Package- Williams NLB, Edge- Lawson, NDT- A.Brown RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Sled21 - 04-05-2020 (04-05-2020, 01:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Actually, both examples given (Fred's 3-4 and bilbo's Big Nickel) have Bell listed. You're right.... freakin Corona RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - phil413 - 04-05-2020 It's a good discussion, and likely matchup driven regarding snap count. Bell and Williams will get "starter" reps, at times as the 5th DB and at times with one at NLB. They need one starting LB still. What that positon is only the FO knows. That makes versatility the key, hence the Baun talk since coverage and pass rush isn't an easy get. One thing that is critical is having the right rotations to have a scheme over just putting talent out there. If Bell or Williams get hurt, are you sliding over Pratt (or a coverage rookie) or are you drafting another safety by mid round? Do Hubbard and Lawson platoon one positon, or are you having a 3 man rotation at OLB with Bynes and Pratt or a rookie in the middle? We're talking draft because no matter how much they added, they're one starter short and it's funny that it could be one of three types of player. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - fredtoast - 04-06-2020 (04-05-2020, 03:04 PM)Synric Wrote: Because teams are running 11 personnel (3WR 1RB 1TE) around 60% of the offensive packages you are more likely to see a 335 than a 344. This. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 04-06-2020 I’m okay with that defense. If anything I’d like to see them sign a couple of veteran linebackers (like Ogletree if he’s still available) just to get some experienced bodies on the roster. I’m okay with it as long as they’re going to continue to work on the roster going into next year. I don’t expect them to win the super bowl but I want to see improvement and that they’re actually working towards that goal. RE: Your starting defense with what we have right now. - Hammerstripes - 04-06-2020 The Big Nickel is the reason why I think you see another safety drafted. I think Bell/Williams are essentially LBs in this defense. I want another guy that can cover back there - Delpit would be great along side Bates. |