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Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - GMDino - 05-19-2015 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000493270/article/new-england-patriots-will-not-appeal-nfl-decision?campaign=facebook_atn_kraft Has nothing to do with Brady's suspension. Although one has to wonder if that little chit chat Kraft and Goodell had on the couch the other night wasn't a trade of no lawsuit for a reduced suspension for Tommy boy.... RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 05-19-2015 (05-19-2015, 02:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000493270/article/new-england-patriots-will-not-appeal-nfl-decision?campaign=facebook_atn_kraft I thought he dropped it because they did cheat and he ended up deciding money, draft picks, and suspensions was worth winning a Super Bowl. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Bengal Dude - 05-19-2015 Now Brady will be suspended for 2 games. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Bmoreblitz - 05-19-2015 They've kissed and made up ![]() RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Bilbo Saggins - 05-20-2015 Pretty hard to argue innocence when the league has seen texts from a Pats employee calling themselves a "deflator" as well as texts from Tom Brady assuring said person that they've done nothing wrong. The punishment still seems rather light to me-I'd have liked to see a suspension during the post season so that they can't repeat after the big cheat. Oh, and without the deflation and bending of the eligible receiver rules the Pats never would have made it past the Ravens last year. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Mike M (the other one) - 05-20-2015 If I was a Saints fan, I'd be pissed that Belichick didn't also get suspended, ignorance isn't an excuse. More specifically, the letter from Commissioner Goodell suspending Payton explained that his denials of knowledge “are inconsistent with the contractual responsibility to supervise and direct the coaches and players, and with the obligations imposed on you by the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.” Goodell also said “[i]t was your obligation to know of such a program and to stop if once you did know.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/11/why-didnt-belichick-receive-punishment-for-deflategate/ EDIT: I don't think there's much Kraft can do about it, he's one of 32 owners and has to abide by the policy/punishment to his franchise as dictated by the contract he signed when he acquired the team. Brady is not obligated to follow the rules of that contract, which is why he's appealing thru the NFLPA (which is the group that protects the players from the NFL and owners). There was no pillow/couch talk deals done between them for Brady's lowered suspension. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - magikod - 05-21-2015 (05-19-2015, 02:55 PM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I thought he dropped it because they did cheat and he ended up deciding money, draft picks, and suspensions was worth winning a Super Bowl. lol this. patriots are lucky they are not taking away the rings. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - jason - 05-21-2015 ![]() ![]() ![]() I was done with this story 4-5 (whenever) months ago. For 15 years QBs have done whatever they wanted to the ball. Aside from personal comfort, I see no advantage to deflating the ball a lil. The ass whoopin' they put on the Colts in the second half of that game is indicative of that. I'm as sick of the Patriots as anybody, but I don't think that this rises to the level of spygate, or coaches suggesting that players headhunt guys on the other team. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - GMDino - 05-21-2015 (05-21-2015, 08:37 PM)jason Wrote: Well a slightly deflated ball is easier to grip and the number have shown that Patriots fumble less then well, everyone. Some of that is surely coaching...some of that may be cheating. Nonetheless its more important that Brady lied. Flat out lied. And then lawyered up. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - SunsetBengal - 05-21-2015 (05-21-2015, 05:43 PM)magikod Wrote: lol this. (hypothetically) How in the heck would that work out? Do they replay the Super Bowl? Do they just give Seattle the title? What about the Dolts, do they get an opportunity to lose to Seattle? ![]() RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Murdock2420 - 05-22-2015 (05-21-2015, 09:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: (hypothetically) How in the heck would that work out? Do they replay the Super Bowl? Do they just give Seattle the title? What about the Dolts, do they get an opportunity to lose to Seattle? College rules? Just vacate the title? RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - jason - 05-22-2015 (05-21-2015, 09:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well a slightly deflated ball is easier to grip and the number have shown that Patriots fumble less then well, everyone. Yeah...That's what's puzzling about it. Why not just come out when it happened and say... My bad. I like the eqmnt guys to take a little air out of them. I didn't realize blah, blah, blah... My problem is that the NFL was tipped off, and instead of telling the team to cease and desist, they are more interested in catching them, and making this some big story.... To trample over the NBA Playoffs, Indy, baseball. I guess any publicity is good for them. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - GMDino - 05-22-2015 (05-22-2015, 09:16 AM)jason Wrote: Yeah...That's what's puzzling about it. Why not just come out when it happened and say... My bad. I like the eqmnt guys to take a little air out of them. I didn't realize blah, blah, blah... If this was the first time they had been accused I'd agree. But why not give them enough rope and then see what they do out by the tree with the nice high limb? RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - magikod - 05-22-2015 (05-19-2015, 05:22 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: They've kissed and made up haha nice picture! ![]() RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - 6andcounting - 05-31-2015 I just read this conspiracy from a Pats fan as to why Kraft declined to appeal his fine. "If Kraft sues the NFL and wins, he'll basically have set a precedent that would've ended the NFL's monopoly through the court system overruling all the NFL's rules that are technically against anti-trust laws. So basically It may seem like Kraft had to choose between his team or the league, but without the league there is no team, so he really had to choose between: preserve his team's reputation but without a league to play in or take a hit to his team's reputation but keep a league to play in." RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - Mike M (the other one) - 06-01-2015 (05-21-2015, 08:37 PM)jason Wrote: Some people keep trying to say that it didn't really matter because NE put a whipping on the Colts, and the whipping part is true. However, at the time the balls were deflated, what was the score? 0-0? It was done to give one team an unfair advantage over the other before the game is actually played, and not the first time it was done. You could point back to other games where the final score was close and NE won and claim that it was an advantage for that game. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2015 (06-01-2015, 12:58 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: You could point back to other games where the final score was close and NE won and claim that it was an advantage for that game. To be fair, only 4 of their 16 wins were by a score or less, but you can say that about the Ravens game the week before. Ravens led twice with 14 point leads and then again with a 3 point lead. Patriots then win by 4 points. Who is to say that they didn't possibly have an advantage? RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - GMDino - 06-03-2015 (06-01-2015, 12:58 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Some people keep trying to say that it didn't really matter because NE put a whipping on the Colts, and the whipping part is true. However, at the time the balls were deflated, what was the score? 0-0? It was done to give one team an unfair advantage over the other before the game is actually played, and not the first time it was done. You could point back to other games where the final score was close and NE won and claim that it was an advantage for that game. That's the intriguing part. the entire game plan of the other team can be affected by suddenly being down 14 points. Given the stats on the Patriots lack of fumbling and the advantage it would give them to have slightly deflated balls most would think this has gone on for a while. RE: Kraft not appealing punishment from NFL - GMDino - 07-28-2015 http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/7/28/8805315/tom-brady-suspension-appeal-denied-nfl-deflategate-roger-goodell All four games upheld. And Brady destroyed the phone! ![]() Quote:NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has denied Tom Brady's appeal of a four-game suspension for his role in the Patriots' DeflateGate scandal, the NFL announced Tuesday. The commissioner, who was arbitrator in Brady's June 23 appeal, determined that the Patriots quarterback did not surface new information to overturn his original ruling. |