(09-27-2020, 06:34 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: so happy for watching worst team in NFL year in and year out. I wish I had this positive attitude.

I'm waiting fo ra win just to watch berman's highlights. I haven't watched ESPN's highlights since Berman came back years ago.

(09-27-2020, 06:31 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The future of this team is so bright! Boyd, Burrow, Higgins and Mixon (although he didn't do much today behind this horrid offensive line) is an offensive core that play callers dream about having.

Green doesn't look like a pro bowler anymore though. At this point, I don't believe Ross or Green will be Bengals in 2021. But with Higgins showing a ton of talent today and even Tate getting some solid plays in, I don't think we really need Green anymore. At least not at the current talent level he is.

And Ross' career is probably over. At least barring injury or a resurrection with another team. Being a healthy scratch is just...oof. That's not what you want in a top 10 pick haha.

We have a hole the size of the grand canyon at RG and RT, but nothing that a draft or two and a free agency period where we have 18 million free (because of no more Green) can't fix.

The defense, despite having issues in the final 25 seconds of both halves, was stout as hell today, especially in pass defense. If they can get a hold of the run game, we could have something special going.

I don't think we're playoff caliber right now (obviously) but I think the pieces are all there. This team is a ton of fun to watch in the worst case.

I'm looking forward to football Sunday again and, honestly, that's all I really expected out of this season. It's still early, but I honestly think Joe Burrow already had OROY locked in. He's just that good. Damn it feels good to have a legitimate QB again!

(09-27-2020, 06:31 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: This team is a ton of fun to watch in the worst case.

(09-27-2020, 06:47 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Joe Burrow won’t win OROY not because of his numbers, but because he will be on a team with maybe 2 wins. Burrow is nothing short of phenomenal so far. 0 picks with 300 yards and 2TD in a game the oline gives up 8 sacks... wow.

Thats our problem though,
We don’t have all the pieces we need. The D has shown at times they can be OK but the right side of the line fails time after time. I would argue Billy Price singlehandedly cost us a win in OT. I wonder if Zac will still echo the oline issues are overblown. If he does then I have ZERO, and I mean ZERO faith in him as a coach.

(09-27-2020, 07:04 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I was listening to an interview on the drive home and the guy asked him "You had Fred in in the first half, you took him out for Billy in the 2nd half. Was that because of injury or due to performance and where do you stand on that now" and his answer was something along the lines of "we're trying to get things to work and we're going to keep trying until it works." So I think he knows the Oline is a mess. I just don't know if it can be fixed this year. Unless Adeniji gets to play and is just inexplicably great :)

As for Burrow and OROY, I'm not convinced this team is 2-14 bad. I bet they can squeeze 4 or 5 wins out of this season at a minimum. We've been within 1 score in all three games, with 2 of the games basically lost because of silly nonsense (Chargers game we have a ticky tacky OPI call followed by a missed chip shot and against Philly, we allow two improbable TDs in the final seconds of both halves and screw up overtime on a ticky tacky holding call, not to mention the easy TD bouncing off Boyd's fingers against Cleveland).

This is nowhere near last year, where we were losing games by 20 points twice in the first four weeks. Our offense failed to crack 21 points in 12 of our 16 games, including 10 in our first 11 haha. We've surpassed it twice in three games already. We'll secure some wins soon :)

(09-27-2020, 07:16 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Bengals had a chance to close the game and couldn’t, because of the o-line. Aside from the meaningless Mixon run, the last two drives in OT netted -24 yards or so, because of the offensive line. I don’t see why they don’t plug Adeniji, he literally could not be worse than Johnson or Price. If anything he plays at their same level but gets experience in his 1st year.

Also I thought it was a Marvin Lewis issue giving up points before half, but apparently it is also a Zac Taylor issue.

(09-27-2020, 06:31 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The future of this team is so bright! Boyd, Burrow, Higgins and Mixon (although he didn't do much today behind this horrid offensive line) is an offensive core that play callers dream about having.

Green doesn't look like a pro bowler anymore though. At this point, I don't believe Ross or Green will be Bengals in 2021. But with Higgins showing a ton of talent today and even Tate getting some solid plays in, I don't think we really need Green anymore. At least not at the current talent level he is.

And Ross' career is probably over. At least barring injury or a resurrection with another team. Being a healthy scratch is just...oof. That's not what you want in a top 10 pick haha.

We have a hole the size of the grand canyon at RG and RT, but nothing that a draft or two and a free agency period where we have 18 million free (because of no more Green) can't fix.

The defense, despite having issues in the final 25 seconds of both halves, was stout as hell today, especially in pass defense. If they can get a hold of the run game, we could have something special going.

I don't think we're playoff caliber right now (obviously) but I think the pieces are all there. This team is a ton of fun to watch in the worst case.

I'm looking forward to football Sunday again and, honestly, that's all I really expected out of this season. It's still early, but I honestly think Joe Burrow already had OROY locked in. He's just that good. Damn it feels good to have a legitimate QB again!

(09-27-2020, 06:47 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Joe Burrow won’t win OROY not because of his numbers, but because he will be on a team with maybe 2 wins. Burrow is nothing short of phenomenal so far. 0 picks with 300 yards and 2TD in a game the oline gives up 8 sacks... wow.

Thats our problem though,
We don’t have all the pieces we need. The D has shown at times they can be OK but the right side of the line fails time after time. I would argue Billy Price singlehandedly cost us a win in OT. I wonder if Zac will still echo the oline issues are overblown. If he does then I have ZERO, and I mean ZERO faith in him as a coach.

(09-27-2020, 07:39 PM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: So I missed the game because I had to work tonight which is not normal for my schedule, I figured we had lost reading some of the thread titles but was slightly confused because of other ones like this so it makes sense we tied I guess.

(09-27-2020, 06:31 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The future of this team is so bright! Boyd, Burrow, Higgins and Mixon (although he didn't do much today behind this horrid offensive line) is an offensive core that play callers dream about having.

Green doesn't look like a pro bowler anymore though. At this point, I don't believe Ross or Green will be Bengals in 2021. But with Higgins showing a ton of talent today and even Tate getting some solid plays in, I don't think we really need Green anymore. At least not at the current talent level he is.

And Ross' career is probably over. At least barring injury or a resurrection with another team. Being a healthy scratch is just...oof. That's not what you want in a top 10 pick haha.

We have a hole the size of the grand canyon at RG and RT, but nothing that a draft or two and a free agency period where we have 18 million free (because of no more Green) can't fix.

The defense, despite having issues in the final 25 seconds of both halves, was stout as hell today, especially in pass defense. If they can get a hold of the run game, we could have something special going.

I don't think we're playoff caliber right now (obviously) but I think the pieces are all there. This team is a ton of fun to watch in the worst case.

I'm looking forward to football Sunday again and, honestly, that's all I really expected out of this season. It's still early, but I honestly think Joe Burrow already had OROY locked in. He's just that good. Damn it feels good to have a legitimate QB again!

(09-27-2020, 07:59 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'm going to stick with my offseason OROY pick. Burrow's played quite well today, but I still think Clyde Edwards-Helaire will run away (terrible pun 100% intended) with the award.

He's on pace (yes, I know pace is a little wonky in the first couple weeks until there's a large enough sample size) for 1,400 rushing yards at 5.0 YPC... that's going to win OROY 100% of the time. Bonus points since he'll be doing it on a winning/playoff team.

(09-27-2020, 08:09 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: That's fair. If anyone is going to beat Joe, it's CEH. We'll see how he does tomorrow against the Ravens. I don't have the history on the rookie of the year award to know if team success helps or hurts (like, for example, does a QB playing at an elite level despite having a bad Oline help his case, since he is overcoming his team's weaknesses? Or do they mostly look at stats? Likewise, does being on a super bowl contending team help a running back or hurt them, because they are just one of many weapons?) but I am hoping Joe gets it. He definitely deserves it through 3 weeks.

5 TDs and only 1 INT with 2 300 yard games in 3 weeks is just high quality production. Especially since that interception wasn't an actual pass, it was just a dumb little college play.