(10-16-2020, 05:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I like Ace, but he’s been making non-stop excuses for AJ ever since he gave them an interview on their channel. I understand appreciating him coming on, but you lose credibility when you just fanboy out, and not it tell like it is.

(10-16-2020, 05:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I like Ace, but he’s been making non-stop excuses for AJ ever since he gave them an interview on their channel. I understand appreciating him coming on, but you lose credibility when you just fanboy out, and not tell it like it is.

(10-16-2020, 04:11 PM)Tony Wrote: https://youtu.be/phaf4-AogWg

I dont agree with the guy that's breaking down the film at all, but it's a good look at the situation. This guy wants to blame most of it on Burrow for the throws not being perfect, but it looks to me like AJ is blanketed 95% of the time and they would be picked if thrown anywhere else.. I think AJ  gets frustrated way to fast and if he did have anything left it won't matter because of his actions.. Slamming his helmet and mouthing off on the side line isn't helping anything ...

(10-17-2020, 11:31 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I guess I am in the minority, but I think both AJ and Burrow are at fault and each share some blame. Burrow flat out missed AJ who was open by 5 or 6 yards on a throw to the endzone against the Chargers, a game we lost. After the game, Burrow said something like every high school QB can make that throw and took the blame.  AJ was also called for a PI call on a TD catch in the same game which would have been game winner. Was it PI? Yes, it was but Mike Williams got away with same crap 3 times in same game so disappointing those no calls and then a call as Burrow led a great drive, AJ ran a great route and both were penalized as was our team with a loss.

On the other hand, AJ does not get separation as he has done in the past. His burst is just not there yet, maybe gone forever or maybe working his way back from the ankle injury a year ago. Also, Joe made a horrible decision to throw under pressure the interception intended for AJ, he missed he bad,but then AJ did not go make the tackle, he was too busy pouting in my opinion. I questions AJ's work ethic right now.

So, I see both players are to blame, but give a little more to AJ since he is the vet and Joe is the rookie. But neither shares no blame.

(10-17-2020, 11:40 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Burrow and Green are not in sync yet. That's obvious.

(10-17-2020, 11:45 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Which again, is because of AJ. He couldn’t even make it through TC without injuring himself (even if it was just a hammy). It’s not Burrow’s fault they didn’t get the necessary reps.

(10-17-2020, 11:43 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: People really need to let that miss against the Chargers go. It was one play. In Burrow’s first NFL game. Burrow is not having trouble with any of his other WR’s. That tells me it’s far more on AJ than it is him.

When a rookie like Higgins, or a guy like Thomas is outperforming you then the problem is you.

(10-17-2020, 11:50 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Why should we let mistakes Burrow makes go? That is being very biased, something you accuse others of being.

It was a horrid miss, Joe did not excuse it so neither should the fans. Our rookie QB is a starting NFL QB so coaches and fans should not treat him with kid gloves. If he makes ad throw or a mistake, he gets paid lots of money to make great throws and not make mistakes.

Early on Joe has not been good (below average for all starting QB's) for throws over 20 yards, one of those throws was a aly up he missed. I have said prior, he will start hitting those throws, but I will not ignore college deep ball Joe Burrow and NFL Joe Burrow early on has been night and day. Let's hope good college deep ball Burrow shows up very soon because as of now, Herbert is making him look bad on longer throws.

(10-17-2020, 11:50 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Indeed not having that 4-6 weeks of day-to-day practice has definitely impacted Burrow's chemistry with Green (and Ross).
Burrow goes to the guys he's comfortable with. Boyd, Higgins, Tate, Mixon, Bernard, and Sample.

(10-17-2020, 12:03 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Nothing to do with being “biased” it’s just silly to harp on one play as proof that’s its supposedly not primarily on AJ. He’s been horrendous. And that’s coming from a massive AJ Green fan. I own the man’s jersey. He’s one of my top 2-3 Bengals off all time, but when you play like absolute shit I’m going to call you out on it.

Also, who cares what Herbert is doing? Great, he hit some deep balls (mostly with his WR’s running wide open), but he still only has one win. Same as Joe. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy if you keep worrying about Herbert (or Tua) every single week. Let’s see who the better QB is in 4-5 years. That seems more important to me.

(10-17-2020, 11:40 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Burrow and Green are not in sync yet. That's obvious.