(10-12-2015, 08:11 PM)Beaker Wrote: The first thing I noticed was that Dalton forced that ball in to AJ that got picked off. Clearly a bad decision. I dont know if it was cockiness thinking he could get it in there, or that he just didnt see the DB. But after halftime, Dalton didnt try to force anymore balls into places like that again. In fact, on the next two drives, e threw balls out of bounds when he had no play. This made me happy because old Andy would have kept trying to do too much. New Andy learned from his mistake and didnt do it again. To me thats a huge step up in decision making.

The second thing I noticed was on his 5 yd QB keeper dive for a TD. When he was walking to the line, he said something to Bodine. They hiked the ball on first sound before seattle had a chnace to do any shifts. Bodine blocd the NT to the left and Dalton squirted into the endzone. The rest of the Bengals didnt block the same way as Bodine. The media never asked, and nothing was said, but I think Dalton saw that open midlle as they approached the line, told Bodine to go on first sound and block left, and improvised the run on his own taking advantage of the seattle formation. If so, that was also a hell of a decision and awesome to see.

(10-12-2015, 08:11 PM)Beaker Wrote: The first thing I noticed was that Dalton forced that ball in to AJ that got picked off. Clearly a bad decision. I dont know if it was cockiness thinking he could get it in there, or that he just didnt see the DB. But after halftime, Dalton didnt try to force anymore balls into places like that again. In fact, on the next two drives, e threw balls out of bounds when he had no play. This made me happy because old Andy would have kept trying to do too much. New Andy learned from his mistake and didnt do it again. To me thats a huge step up in decision making.

The second thing I noticed was on his 5 yd QB keeper dive for a TD. When he was walking to the line, he said something to Bodine. They hiked the ball on first sound before seattle had a chnace to do any shifts. Bodine blocd the NT to the left and Dalton squirted into the endzone. The rest of the Bengals didnt block the same way as Bodine. The media never asked, and nothing was said, but I think Dalton saw that open midlle as they approached the line, told Bodine to go on first sound and block left, and improvised the run on his own taking advantage of the seattle formation. If so, that was also a hell of a decision and awesome to see.

(10-12-2015, 11:11 PM)Stormborn Wrote: I'd have to disagree slightly on number 1, mid way through the 3rd Dalton forced a shotgun throw to A.J. on an attempted back shoulder sideline throw, Sherman read it perfectly (this was also in the midst of him moving around for once) and dropped what would've been an interception.

As for the actual int, he simply forgot about Earl, he saw A.J. separate and didn't think to throw back pylon, Earl Thomas was just being Earl Thomas.

To his credit though, 13-15, 135 yards and TD along with the now famous "Badger" audible that validated the immense enormity of his coin purse in the 4th and OT, so it wasn't all done against prevent.

(10-12-2015, 11:48 PM)Wyche Wrote: If I'm not mistaken.....Dalton threw in a hurry on that play as well.  That was when Winston had came in for Dre , and he didn't exactly set the world on fire.  If memory serves....he took a little out of stepping into that throw due to pressure and got hit to boot.

(10-12-2015, 08:11 PM)Beaker Wrote: The first thing I noticed was that Dalton forced that ball in to AJ that got picked off. Clearly a bad decision. I dont know if it was cockiness thinking he could get it in there, or that he just didnt see the DB. But after halftime, Dalton didnt try to force anymore balls into places like that again. In fact, on the next two drives, e threw balls out of bounds when he had no play. This made me happy because old Andy would have kept trying to do too much. New Andy learned from his mistake and didnt do it again. To me thats a huge step up in decision making.

The second thing I noticed was on his 5 yd QB keeper dive for a TD. When he was walking to the line, he said something to Bodine. They hiked the ball on first sound before seattle had a chnace to do any shifts. Bodine blocd the NT to the left and Dalton squirted into the endzone. The rest of the Bengals didnt block the same way as Bodine. The media never asked, and nothing was said, but I think Dalton saw that open midlle as they approached the line, told Bodine to go on first sound and block left, and improvised the run on his own taking advantage of the seattle formation. If so, that was also a hell of a decision and awesome to see.

(10-12-2015, 11:11 PM)Stormborn Wrote: I'd have to disagree slightly on number 1, mid way through the 3rd Dalton forced a shotgun throw to A.J. on an attempted back shoulder sideline throw, Sherman read it perfectly (this was also in the midst of him moving around for once) and dropped what would've been an interception.

As for the actual int, he simply forgot about Earl, he saw A.J. separate and didn't think to throw back pylon, Earl Thomas was just being Earl Thomas.

To his credit though, 13-15, 135 yards and TD along with the now famous "Badger" audible that validated the immense enormity of his coin purse in the 4th and OT, so it wasn't all done against prevent.

(10-13-2015, 01:36 AM)Stormborn Wrote: Damn Wyche, now I gotta rewatch this play again at 12:30 lol....

You were thinking of a different play, starting 5 oline was in, Fisher was actually in for max protection with Hill also, Dalton had a clean pocket, stepped into the throw, made a bad decision.

Play is at 1:06:34

(10-13-2015, 03:39 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I don't think he forced it, I just think he underthrew it, and I remember thinking that when I saw it live.  Either that, or he was expecting AJ to stop and be there for a jump ball, which then it would have been a bad throw, also, but I really don't think he forced it, I just think it was a bad throw.

Regardless of whether or not he knew about Earl, it should have been back pylon, so I agree with you 

There's no reason to not to throw back pylon, even if you don't see anyone because it just puts the ball farther away from any defenders that could possibly make a spectacular play on it (turns out that Earl just had to make an average play to intercept it).

(10-13-2015, 03:39 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I don't think he forced it, I just think he underthrew it, and I remember thinking that when I saw it live.  Either that, or he was expecting AJ to stop and be there for a jump ball, which then it would have been a bad throw, also, but I really don't think he forced it, I just think it was a bad throw.

Regardless of whether or not he knew about Earl, it should have been back pylon, so I agree with you 

There's no reason to not to throw back pylon, even if you don't see anyone because it just puts the ball farther away from any defenders that could possibly make a spectacular play on it (turns out that Earl just had to make an average play to intercept it).

(10-12-2015, 10:42 PM)corpjet Wrote: That audible was all on Andy, another sign of his continued maturation.......

(10-13-2015, 07:35 PM)InTheJungleNow9 Wrote: The INT pass was just plain bad.  AJ was only open for a very brief moment out of his cut but that was it.  The throw was so late a good high school safety could have intercepted it.

(10-14-2015, 11:51 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: at the same time he AJ attacks it instead of fading into the endzone for it... It could have been a completition.