(10-22-2020, 05:21 PM)GodFather Wrote: If you've been listening to the media, Bengal beat writers and podcasters, fans its hilarious how they go 180 degrees on the drop of a hat. When John Ross played all we heard was, "This guy cant catch" "He looks lost out there" "He is a complete bust"  "Put Tate in hes more dependable"


Then.....

When he is inactive and benched  the same people are saying "Why isn't John Ross playing, hes fast" "John is a first rounder and we aren't utilizing him" "We have a talent sitting on the bench other teams could use and we will regret it"


Where does everyone stand with the Ross dichotomy?

(10-22-2020, 05:46 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I'm not a big John Ross fan.  Shocker, I know.  That said, I do wonder if he can, or could have, been better used.

I think we can agree that he's proven that he can't play the role of a traditional 1st or 2nd option.  He drops too many passes, he's not dependable, and he's really too small to go up and outwork guys for balls.

But I really have to wonder, could we not do more to play to his strengths?  Why not run more things for like: hitch routes, quick outs, reverses?  Why not try him as a punt or kick returner?

I just think the creativity has been sorely lacking.  And as much as I'm ready to move on, and I've long been willing to label him a complete bust, I still think he's talented enough to be worthy of seeing some use week to week.

If I'm being honest, I would take an active John Ross over an active Mike Thomas 10/10 out of times.  Obviously a lot of people on here disagree, and so does the coaching staff, so maybe I'm just wrong.  But I still believe this staff, along with the previous one, did a terrible job getting him involved.  

They both try to use him like a tradional receiver, and he's just not.  And having streak down the sideline isn't nearly creative enough to take full advantage of his speed and quickness.  I would not at all be surpised to see him go elsewhere and carve out a unique role for himself.

(10-22-2020, 05:21 PM)GodFather Wrote: If you've been listening to the media, Bengal beat writers and podcasters, fans its hilarious how they go 180 degrees on the drop of a hat. When John Ross played all we heard was, "This guy cant catch" "He looks lost out there" "He is a complete bust"  "Put Tate in hes more dependable"


Then.....

When he is inactive and benched  the same people are saying "Why isn't John Ross playing, hes fast" "John is a first rounder and we aren't utilizing him" "We have a talent sitting on the bench other teams could use and we will regret it"


Where does everyone stand with the Ross dichotomy?

(10-22-2020, 05:58 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Did anybody watch how the Colts were just
Abusing the Bengals lack of lateral speed last week.
Everybody but Hilton was making the Bengals look
Stupid in coverage.
The one.thing that Ross does better than any WR
On this team is seperate and adjust the depth
Of the safeties.
Some of you act like he forgot how to play football
He didnt.
The Bengals 7th grade level offensive minds have
No idea how to get the most out of him.

(10-22-2020, 05:46 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I'm not a big John Ross fan.  Shocker, I know.  That said, I do wonder if he can, or could have, been better used.

I think we can agree that he's proven that he can't play the role of a traditional 1st or 2nd option.  He drops too many passes, he's not dependable, and he's really too small to go up and outwork guys for balls.

But I really have to wonder, could we not do more to play to his strengths?  Why not run more things for like: hitch routes, quick outs, reverses?  Why not try him as a punt or kick returner?

I just think the creativity has been sorely lacking.  And as much as I'm ready to move on, and I've long been willing to label him a complete bust, I still think he's talented enough to be worthy of seeing some use week to week.

If I'm being honest, I would take an active John Ross over an active Mike Thomas 10/10 out of times.  Obviously a lot of people on here disagree, and so does the coaching staff, so maybe I'm just wrong.  But I still believe this staff, along with the previous one, did a terrible job getting him involved.  

They both try to use him like a tradional receiver, and he's just not.  And having streak down the sideline isn't nearly creative enough to take full advantage of his speed and quickness.  I would not at all be surpised to see him go elsewhere and carve out a unique role for himself.

(10-22-2020, 06:46 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Yeah thats not it. Tee Higgins is starting to flourish, Boyd has been super successful, Tate has his career year last year. Ross has sucked under two coaching staffs, and two QBs. He doesn't have it man. Leg it go. He has talent, but lacks the mental capacity to match it. 

(10-22-2020, 07:43 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Hasn't he had 3?

(10-22-2020, 05:55 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: The dichotomy is reality vs blind hope.

The podcast I listen too has not complained about John Ross being inactive. They’ve given up on him too.

Here’s what I think about Ross, he doesn’t like to get hit. It’s why he short arms catches and has drops because he’s always looking for the hit. Reason why he can light up practice too. He knows he’s not getting hit. You CANNOT be a football player if you’re not willing to get hit.