(10-31-2020, 10:58 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: I know that many want to see some of the backups play on the oline to see if they can protect Burrow better than the starter.

I agree with that sentiment to a degree, but would prefer it not be a wholesale change as too much can go wrong and expose the young man to serious injury.

With all of that said, if Joe lays and egg tomorrow due to relentless pressure and poor oline performances, could THIS be the moment that management realizes the importance of paying quality interior linemen?

The kid has taken a brutal beating this year from sub-par play.  Should the oline devolve even more, I think the light bulb might finally come on to know that significant resources are required to keep a QB upright so he can do his job.

(10-31-2020, 12:25 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: While it is extremely important for the offensive line to give Joe Burrow time and space to complete lots of passes sometimes we forget the run game.  Run blocking is equally important as pass protection.  

High quality running backs like Joe Mixon and Giovani Bernard shouldn’t be stuffed at the line of scrimmage or tackled for a loss on a consistent basis.  Averaging ~3 yards per carry is seriously underachieving for those two!

It is not coincidental the Bengals’ only win of the season was when Joe Mixon ran for over 100 yards against Jacksonville.  The Jaguars are junk, to be sure, but 158 yards is an excellent day for a running back no matter what.

Finally, a competent run game controls the clock and moves the chains.  This is something the Bengals are missing and must fix as soon as possible.  So, tomorrow, please take notice of the run blocking. Pass protection is important but rushing is the other half of a successful offense.

(10-31-2020, 10:58 AM)jfkbengals Wrote:   Should the oline devolve even more, I think the light bulb might finally come on to know that significant resources are required to keep a QB upright so he can do his job.

(10-31-2020, 12:44 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Joe does not look well to me, I think he needs bed rest until we get our OL healthy.

He should go on IR to make sure he is not killed.

I kid, but I am worried this OL may allow him to be hit a lot, worse than our starters.

(10-31-2020, 10:58 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: I know that many want to see some of the backups play on the oline to see if they can protect Burrow better than the starter.

I agree with that sentiment to a degree, but would prefer it not be a wholesale change as too much can go wrong and expose the young man to serious injury.

With all of that said, if Joe lays and egg tomorrow due to relentless pressure and poor oline performances, could THIS be the moment that management realizes the importance of paying quality interior linemen?

The kid has taken a brutal beating this year from sub-par play.  Should the oline devolve even more, I think the light bulb might finally come on to know that significant resources are required to keep a QB upright so he can do his job.

(10-31-2020, 10:58 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: could THIS be the moment that management realizes the importance of paying quality interior linemen?

(10-31-2020, 12:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The claim that the Bengals don't value O-line is ridiculous.  Bengals have always paid the O-line well.  Levi and Willie were the highest paid OT duo in the league.  We paid Whitworth well until he was 36.  We paid OG's Bobbie Williams and Clint Boling well and used a first round pick on OG Kevin Zeitler.   We have used a first round pick on O-line in 2 of our last 3 and 3 of our last 5 drafts.  We traded for the 8th highest paid OT in the league in 2018. 

(10-31-2020, 10:58 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: I know that many want to see some of the backups play on the oline to see if they can protect Burrow better than the starter.

I agree with that sentiment to a degree, but would prefer it not be a wholesale change as too much can go wrong and expose the young man to serious injury.

With all of that said, if Joe lays and egg tomorrow due to relentless pressure and poor oline performances, could THIS be the moment that management realizes the importance of paying quality interior linemen?

The kid has taken a brutal beating this year from sub-par play.  Should the oline devolve even more, I think the light bulb might finally come on to know that significant resources are required to keep a QB upright so he can do his job.

(10-31-2020, 12:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The claim that the Bengals don't value O-line is ridiculous.  Bengals have always paid the O-line well.  Levi and Willie were the highest paid OT duo in the league.  We paid Whitworth well until he was 36.  We paid OG's Bobbie Williams and Clint Boling well and used a first round pick on OG Kevin Zeitler.   We have used a first round pick on O-line in 2 of our last 3 and 3 of our last 5 drafts.  We traded for the 8th highest paid OT in the league in 2018. 

(10-31-2020, 07:39 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: The point of the post was about being cheap on the INTERIOR of the line, not about tackles.

Boling and Wiliiams both had very team friendly deals.

Zeitler was a first round pick who walked after his capped rookie deal was over because the team would not offer a deal commensurate with the rate of a top guard.  Pretty much the same thing happened with Eric Steinbach.

They continue to undervalue the interior of the line, and it keeps rearing its ugly head.

(10-31-2020, 07:39 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Boling and Wiliiams both had very team friendly deals.

Zeitler was a first round pick who walked after his capped rookie deal was over because the team would not offer a deal commensurate with the rate of a top guard.  Pretty much the same thing happened with Eric Steinbach.

They continue to undervalue the interior of the line, and it keeps rearing its ugly head.

(10-31-2020, 08:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know what you mean by "team friendly".  Boling was a top ten paid OG and Williams was also paid well.

Steinbach walked because all five starters became free agents the same season,  They paid 4 of the five and let Steinbach walk because they had whit ready to take his spot.  Also Steinbach was overpaid by the Browns.