(11-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: I am going to say yes and this is my reasoning. Feel free to disagree but at least state why.

First, I think the constantly changing and weird sets are hampering the progress of our young linebackers. We actually can field a LB core for a 4-3 (Pratt, Wilson, ADG) or a 3-4 (Pratt, Bynes, Wilson, ADG) and if we would pick one and stick to it as the base these young backers would be able to develop as a unit and would not have constantly changing areas they have to cover - which leads to confusion especially with inexperienced players.

Second, picking either 4-3 or 3-4 and sticking to it as the base would help the defense develop some kind of identity. Right now they play like 11 players sent out there unsure of their responsibilities and not really feeling what they as a group are good at.

Whether they did 4-3 or 3-4 pick one. Right now with the depleted DL we might be better at 3-4 but either way choose one and stick with it both in practice and in play.

(11-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: I am going to say yes and this is my reasoning. Feel free to disagree but at least state why.

First, I think the constantly changing and weird sets are hampering the progress of our young linebackers. We actually can field a LB core for a 4-3 (Pratt, Wilson, ADG) or a 3-4 (Pratt, Bynes, Wilson, ADG) and if we would pick one and stick to it as the base these young backers would be able to develop as a unit and would not have constantly changing areas they have to cover - which leads to confusion especially with inexperienced players.

Second, picking either 4-3 or 3-4 and sticking to it as the base would help the defense develop some kind of identity. Right now they play like 11 players sent out there unsure of their responsibilities and not really feeling what they as a group are good at.

Whether they did 4-3 or 3-4 pick one. Right now with the depleted DL we might be better at 3-4 but either way choose one and stick with it both in practice and in play.

(11-04-2020, 07:23 PM)Synric Wrote: All NFL defenses are hybrids. Every teams in the league runs odd and even fronts. Every team in the league 2 gaps and 1 gaps.

Finding edge players that can do it all is the issue.

(11-04-2020, 07:23 PM)Synric Wrote: All NFL defenses are hybrids. Every teams in the league runs odd and even fronts. Every team in the league 2 gaps and 1 gaps.

(11-04-2020, 07:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This.

Defenses have to be able to adjust to different personnel packages ran by opponents.  Defenses also have to be able to give the offense different looks.

(11-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: I am going to say yes and this is my reasoning. Feel free to disagree but at least state why.

(11-04-2020, 08:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm going to disagree, for the same reasons others have chosen to disagree.  Every NFL defense is a hybrid defense.  Offensive play has become so complex that simply lining up in any "base" defense is futile.  Versatility is a must in today's league.

I'm not against the team choosing the 3-4 hybrid as their "base".  If you look at 3-4 in Nickle, it's basically a 4-3, and most teams play 2/3 of the game in Nickle sets.  The key is getting the LBs adept at stuffing the run, covering the pass, and having a blitz specialist or two on the roster.  The team went heavy on athletic LBs that can tackle in the past two drafts, just allow them to continue developing.  

(11-04-2020, 08:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: All true, think we need to see less of Bynes out there cause as you say need to see the young LB's develop and they look better to
me than Bynes anyways, especially Wilson and Pratt. Wilson has great instincts and just tackles well, the more snaps these guys get
I think the better they will get. Same with ADG who is raw. Haven't seen much of Bailey yet this year, would like to see this guy play
some.

Bynes has been missing tackles and taking bad angles. Sometimes he isn't even in position and the young LB's like Pratt have to line 
him up. Thought he would be the guy doing this for our young fellas, been the other way around.

(11-04-2020, 08:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I agree, although no knock on Bynes, as he has been exactly as advertised and as testified by a fan of his former team.  No ill will toward Josh Bynes, he's made some good stops and plays with good effort.  He can't help what age and injury do to an athlete's body.  Pratt and Wilson are definitely the future, along with ADG.  I was ecstatic watching Wilson get his 1st sack, hopefully many more where that came from.    

(11-04-2020, 09:46 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, I don't mean to be hating on Bynes too bad as I thought he was a good pick up.

Just want to see our young guys get more snaps and him get less is all.

Wilson could be much better than I thought he even would be.

Loved the guy at U-Dub but I think he has grown more than I expected him to so fast.

Excellent pick, could be a great one.

(11-04-2020, 10:42 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Wilson is awesome. I think once he gets the privelage to be out there majority of the game we will see more come from him. He is very disciplined which is why he plays well IMO. I worried about if he would be able to shed blocks and how he would tackle coming from a small conference school but doesn’t look to big for him.

On the flip slide, ADG lacks discipline so badly he looks like a fool at times. He really needed some more time before starting IMO but if he can improve his consistency could be alright.

I still think drafting another LB early two drafts from now or a FA pickup would be enticing.

(11-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: I am going to say yes and this is my reasoning. Feel free to disagree but at least state why.

First, I think the constantly changing and weird sets are hampering the progress of our young linebackers. We actually can field a LB core for a 4-3 (Pratt, Wilson, ADG) or a 3-4 (Pratt, Bynes, Wilson, ADG) and if we would pick one and stick to it as the base these young backers would be able to develop as a unit and would not have constantly changing areas they have to cover - which leads to confusion especially with inexperienced players.

Second, picking either 4-3 or 3-4 and sticking to it as the base would help the defense develop some kind of identity. Right now they play like 11 players sent out there unsure of their responsibilities and not really feeling what they as a group are good at.

Whether they did 4-3 or 3-4 pick one. Right now with the depleted DL we might be better at 3-4 but either way choose one and stick with it both in practice and in play.

(11-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: I am going to say yes and this is my reasoning. Feel free to disagree but at least state why.

First, I think the constantly changing and weird sets are hampering the progress of our young linebackers. We actually can field a LB core for a 4-3 (Pratt, Wilson, ADG) or a 3-4 (Pratt, Bynes, Wilson, ADG) and if we would pick one and stick to it as the base these young backers would be able to develop as a unit and would not have constantly changing areas they have to cover - which leads to confusion especially with inexperienced players.

Second, picking either 4-3 or 3-4 and sticking to it as the base would help the defense develop some kind of identity. Right now they play like 11 players sent out there unsure of their responsibilities and not really feeling what they as a group are good at.

Whether they did 4-3 or 3-4 pick one. Right now with the depleted DL we might be better at 3-4 but either way choose one and stick with it both in practice and in play.