(11-23-2020, 05:20 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Saying right now about Joe Burrow’s injury.  We heard ZT, but I want to hear it from these frugal ass bastards on why this organization lacks the desire to have a respected organization.  Do they not care.  Why is this team always the laughingstock of the NFL and the Brown family does nothing to improve how this organization operates.  This is a cesspool of incompetence and I don’t blame Carlos Dunlap, Carson Palmer, Corey Dillon or Carl Pickens on finding the fastest way out of this cluster of an organization.  This city deserves better than what the Brown family is willing to give.  The Brown family are multimillionaires due the manipulated fans.  F these bastards for not investing and ruining the future only to save a penny.  F the Brown family.  


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(11-23-2020, 05:20 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Saying right now about Joe Burrow’s injury.  We heard ZT, but I want to hear it from these frugal ass bastards on why this organization lacks the desire to have a respected organization.  Do they not care.  Why is this team always the laughingstock of the NFL and the Brown family does nothing to improve how this organization operates.  This is a cesspool of incompetence and I don’t blame Carlos Dunlap, Carson Palmer, Corey Dillon or Carl Pickens on finding the fastest way out of this cluster of an organization.  This city deserves better than what the Brown family is willing to give.  The Brown family are multimillionaires due the manipulated fans.  F these bastards for not investing and ruining the future only to save a penny.  F the Brown family.  


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(11-23-2020, 05:20 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Saying right now about Joe Burrow’s injury.  We heard ZT, but I want to hear it from these frugal ass bastards on why this organization lacks the desire to have a respected organization.  Do they not care.  Why is this team always the laughingstock of the NFL and the Brown family does nothing to improve how this organization operates.  This is a cesspool of incompetence and I don’t blame Carlos Dunlap, Carson Palmer, Corey Dillon or Carl Pickens on finding the fastest way out of this cluster of an organization.  This city deserves better than what the Brown family is willing to give.  The Brown family are multimillionaires due the manipulated fans.  F these bastards for not investing and ruining the future only to save a penny.  F the Brown family.  


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(11-23-2020, 05:20 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Saying right now about Joe Burrow’s injury.  We heard ZT, but I want to hear it from these frugal ass bastards on why this organization lacks the desire to have a respected organization.  Do they not care.  Why is this team always the laughingstock of the NFL and the Brown family does nothing to improve how this organization operates.  This is a cesspool of incompetence and I don’t blame Carlos Dunlap, Carson Palmer, Corey Dillon or Carl Pickens on finding the fastest way out of this cluster of an organization.  This city deserves better than what the Brown family is willing to give.  The Brown family are multimillionaires due the manipulated fans.  F these bastards for not investing and ruining the future only to save a penny.  F the Brown family.  


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(11-23-2020, 05:28 PM)wildcatnku24 Wrote: The same "frugal ass bastards" that shelled out millions AND MILLIONS of dollars in FA......  Gosh isn't anyone tired of that narrative yet?  I think he (MB) clearly sucked as a GM/Owner/Decision maker, but I would bet no one wanted to win more than he.  I think Katie and Troy taking over has yielded positive things, can we not see that this is getting better?  

(11-23-2020, 05:28 PM)wildcatnku24 Wrote: The same "frugal ass bastards" that shelled out millions AND MILLIONS of dollars in FA......  Gosh isn't anyone tired of that narrative yet?  I think he (MB) clearly sucked as a GM/Owner/Decision maker, but I would bet no one wanted to win more than he.  I think Katie and Troy taking over has yielded positive things, can we not see that this is getting better?  

(11-23-2020, 08:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The fact that you are sympathizing with the pathetic team management by the Brown family clearly shows that you do NOT get the bigger picture.  None of them are Football Experts, not one.  Mike should have swallowed his pride and hired an actual GM, right after his father passed, a true football genius with a vision of how a winning team should look.

The fact that they're passing it on to a 3rd generation of "Let's each take a role and split the GM salary" speaks volumes.  While putting a truly competitive and winning team out there would likely generate more than enough money to offset the cost of GM.  Greed and egotistical pride has now led to the crippling of yet, another 1st overall draft pick..

(11-23-2020, 08:53 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Not sure how many times I have to have this conversation, but let's try it one more time...

The fact the family chose to spend money in free agency does nothing to change the narritave that they're frugal, or cheap.  What it does change is their approach to building a roster, which is a good thing.  

They've decided to build this years team differently, and to allocate their dollars differently.  They did not decide to spend more money as a whole.

Just because they spent 120 million in free agent does not mean they spent more overall.  Cap space has to spent, regardless of whether it's in house or not.  Every team is required to meet 89% floor of cap spaced used, taken over a 4 year period.  That money they spent could not have pocketed.  It simply would have been given to people already in house.

Spending close to cap, which pretty much all teams do, hasn't been a problem here in a long, long time.  Even though we spent a shit ton this offseason, you'll see the total cap used is not off from an average year.  Go ahead and look for yourself.  Go look up the cap space used from each year from 2010 to 2020.  Does 2020 see a drastic increase % of cap used?  (It doesn't)

The idea they're cheap/frugal/stubborn comes from the following:

-No practice facilty
-Limited stadium operational expenses
-No GM
-Small front office
-Small scouting department
-Urban Legends (Small towels, locking up gatorade, coach plane tickets, coin operated pop machine, no ammentities, etc.)

So please, PLEASE don't try to counter someone who says we're cheap with "well we just spent 120 million in free agency".  That money was being spent regardless.  It's a change of approach, not a change in overall expenses.

You're more than welcome to try to come up with legitimate reasons you don't think they're cheap, but this isn't one of them.

(11-23-2020, 08:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The fact that you are sympathizing with the pathetic team management by the Brown family clearly shows that you do NOT get the bigger picture.  None of them are Football Experts, not one.  Mike should have swallowed his pride and hired an actual GM, right after his father passed, a true football genius with a vision of how a winning team should look.

The fact that they're passing it on to a 3rd generation of "Let's each take a role and split the GM salary" speaks volumes.  While putting a truly competitive and winning team out there would likely generate more than enough money to offset the cost of GM.  Greed and egotistical pride has now led to the crippling of yet, another 1st overall draft pick..

(11-23-2020, 08:43 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: Pumpkin and her I-know-she's-goddamn-fugly-but-gimme-that-dowry hubby are out on the slopes. They'll get back with you.

Mike has no comment as he's busy having just sharted himself in the barca-lounger the Chevy dealership threw in when he bought that Nova from them back in '73.

Now you're up to speed.