(12-05-2020, 01:26 PM)tBengal Wrote: No, the Bengals are a way for them to make money. Now i’m sure they’d like to win and prefer to win but it doesn’t really matter because they can’t be fired. They say talent skips a generation so hopefully Katie is better at the helm because Mike Brown is an apple that fell way far from the tree.

(12-05-2020, 01:34 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: Duke, Katie and Troy are already at the helm, and it has been a few years since Mike Brown had any real control of this team. Last time I saw him in a press conference, when they introduced Zac, he looked every bit of his 85 years. (And he didn't hire Zac). 

(12-05-2020, 01:14 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I think they probably rationlize it by either blaming the people underneath them (coaches and players), or by attributing it to bad luck or bad breaks

(12-05-2020, 01:14 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Kind of an oddball question, I know. But this is something I've wondered for quite some time.

Do you think Mike, Katie, Troy, or Duke (basically family) has any shame whatsoever? Do you think they ever feel embarrassed or humilated by just how terrible at their jobs they are?

I honestly don't think they really do. I do think they feel disappointed, and I'm sure they realize they could do better. But I doubt they feel as embarrassed as they should.

I think they probably rationlize it by either blaming the people underneath them (coaches and players), or by attributing it to bad luck or bad breaks (just like a lot of posters do here sometimes).

I just don't know how you could continue to throw out such a piss-poor product and never really look at youself being part of the problem.

Like, how do these people take themselves seriously? How do they go into an owners meeting, or meets with agents or the media, and not realize they're a complete joke to everyone else? Do they not understand how stupid they look continuing to do the things that they do?

I don't know, guys. It just seems so odd. If they did feel shame or embarrassment they'd obviously do something to correct it. They'd acknowledge they need help and aren't capable of doing this themselves. They bring in new people to the Front Office and change their entire approach.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope someone like Duke Tobin knows just what a loser he is at his job. I hope Mike and Katie feel incredible embarrasment that this is what they offer to this city. I hope Troy knows he has no business being anywhere around the game of football. I hope they all know they're underqualified for what they do, and that everyone knows it.

I just can't imagine being one of these people and not doing something to make improvements, and to make myself look better in the process. Not caring is taken to entirely different level when you're at the top of a 2 billion company, in a sport that's under a microscope and watched by millions. But that's what it appears to be, they just don't give a shit what anyone thinks.