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The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-08-2020
So the Dolphins gutted their roster last year. Trading many good, young players for draft picks. Tanking for Tua (when Tua was projected to be the 1st pick).
The Bengals on the other hand had a narrative that they had talent that was underperforming under Lewis and a young offensive minded HC would turn things around.
Well both started 0-7, but:
(And these stats don't account for the Dolphins beating the Bengals)
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8">Since both started 0-7 last year:#Bengals 4 wins
— Lance McAlister (@LanceMcAlister) December 3, 2020
Dolphins 12 wins
Dolphins have won 6 of last 7 under 2nd year coach Brian Flores.#Bengals have won 4 of last 27 under 2nd year coach Zac Taylor.
— Lance McAlister (@LanceMcAlister) December 3, 2020
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - impactplaya - 12-08-2020
Players believe in Flores. They dont in Taylor. It's that.simple
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 12:32 AM)impactplaya Wrote: Players believe in Flores. They dont in Taylor. It's that.simple
Absolutely. And Flores stood up for his players.
Our offensive lineman wouldn't even get off the bench. That shows how much faith they have in this staff.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - WhodeyRay - 12-08-2020
I would love to get Doug Pederson. Eagles may let him go and he is a really good coach. The front office has done him no favors with roster. He would be great with Burrow.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - SunsetBengal - 12-08-2020
Hope the Bengals spend a little more time focusing on the nuts and bolts of the interview process, this time around. Or, better yet, I hope they are currently in the process of interviewing GM candidates..
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - PhilHos - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 12:47 AM)WhodeyRay Wrote: I would love to get Doug Pederson. Eagles may let him go and he is a really good coach. The front office has done him no favors with roster. He would be great with Burrow.
I live in the Eagles viewing area and work with a couple of Eagles fans. They do NOT agree with your assessment of Doug Pederson. Just sayin'.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - Whatever - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 10:24 AM)PhilHos Wrote: I live in the Eagles viewing area and work with a couple of Eagles fans. They do NOT agree with your assessment of Doug Pederson. Just sayin'.
Eh, I don't know a lot of crappy HC's with SB rings.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 08:44 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Hope the Bengals spend a little more time focusing on the nuts and bolts of the interview process, this time around. Or, better yet, I hope they are currently in the process of interviewing GM candidates..
I read something last night that some teams outsource part of the coach search process. They named one team that was going to do that. I'd love it IF we did that.
Also, I saw a Tweet about new coaching interview guidelines. A lot has to be on Zoom and it really limits in person.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 10:54 AM)Whatever Wrote: Eh, I don't know a lot of crappy HC's with SB rings.
I feel like Eagles fans think that Frank Reich was the mastermind behind that team.
By the way, guess who the Eagles passing game coordinator and QB Coach is? Who also I believe called their plays in their last game?
...
Zac's brother Press Taylor
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
More value of coaching changes. Mid-season. Same rosters. Different HC:
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Falcons are 4-3 since firing Quinn.
— Adam's Hour (@Adams_Hour) December 13, 2020
Lions are 1-0 since firing Patricia and are currently tied with the Packers.
If the anti-tank crew wants to actually win a game this season, firing Zac Taylor is probably your best bet.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - Bengalholic - 12-13-2020
Whoever the next head coach is...it has to be someone who is respected around the league...something that Marvin brought to the table when hired. No one of any real value wanted to come here and work for Zac, and now we see why.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:05 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Whoever the next head coach is...it has to be someone who is respected around the league...something that Marvin brought to the table when hired. No one of any real value wanted to come here and work for Zac, and now we see why.
Zac's hire reminded me of how a team would draft a guy that had good combine numbers despite putting up mediocre numbers in games.
Zac was a TERRIBLE OC at UC. He made the Dolphins offense worse when he took over. Really no success.
But, he was young and under the McVay tree.
IF the Steelers and Ravens destroy is...the Bengals have to fire him, right.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - Bengalholic - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:25 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Zac's hire reminded me of how a team would draft a guy that had good combine numbers despite putting up mediocre numbers in games.
Zac was a TERRIBLE OC at UC. He made the Dolphins offense worse when he took over. Really no success.
But, he was young and under the McVay tree.
IF the Steelers and Ravens destroy is...the Bengals have to fire him, right.
You would think so...but common sense doesn't always factor in where Mike is concerned. The fact that he's still to stubborn to hire a real GM is just mind boggling. He and the family are way too comfortable with failure and embarrassment.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:31 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: You would think so...but common sense doesn't always factor in where Mike is concerned. The fact that he's still to stubborn to hire a real GM is just mind boggling. He and the family are way too comfortable with failure and embarrassment.
Part of me is concerned that when Burrow went down that the evaluation of Zac did too.
Unless they feel like Zac got Burrow hurt. Calling that many passes behind this line is a recipe for injury.
How they could think Zac is the guy though...
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - SuperBowlBound! - 12-13-2020
If Bengals had Burrows we would have beat the Dolphins!
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - Bengalholic - 12-13-2020
Hell, it's not just Flores...every single first time coach hired over the last 2 years has been better than Zac.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:36 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Hell, it's not just Flores...every single first time coach hired over the last 2 years has been better than Zac.
Legit, all but like 1 or 2 guys in the HISTORY of NFL Coaches have been better than Zac.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - rfaulk34 - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:31 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: You would think so...but common sense doesn't always factor in where Mike is concerned. The fact that he's still to stubborn to hire a real GM is just mind boggling. He and the family are way too comfortable with failure and embarrassment.
Monday Night. The nation is watching.
Steelers pound the Bengals without even trying, 45-0.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:35 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: If Bengals had Burrows we would have beat the Dolphins!
Yeah...we didn't have Burrow because our HC/playcaller decided to have Burrow drop back to pass on pace for some 60+ throws against a top 5 pass rush...and he got his kneed catastrophically shredded.
MJ gave up something like 7-8 pressures in that game.
Its like shooting yourself in the foot and then talking about how you could run a 3 minute mile if you weren't shot in the foot.
RE: The Value of a HC Change - Dolphins vs Bengals - THE PISTONS - 12-13-2020
(12-13-2020, 09:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Monday Night. The nation is watching.
Steelers pound the Bengals without even trying, 45-0.
Can we hit a new franchise low 3 weeks in a row?
Maybe Bruce Gradkowski will come out of retirement and throw 5 TD's against us.