(12-11-2020, 06:34 PM)J24 Wrote: Yeah Zac isn't good we get it no need for 40,000 threads about it.

(12-11-2020, 10:06 PM)Benton Wrote: Well... Injuries are injuries.weve had some significant ones . But most importantly was JB. If he wasn't out,we likely would've added 4-5 more wins. That's a leap forward from last season.

But, to the OP: it's a testament to how depleted this team has been. We've needed OL, DL, LB and WR for years, either starters or significant depth. We had a lot of misses, exacerbated by the few hits being injured.

I get the zt hate. He's the coach, so the w/l will always fall on him. But he's really only been a part of ONE off-season. And in that one we added more talent than probably the previous three. he's got a crap ton of guys to replace before we get back to winning seasons.

(12-11-2020, 11:22 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Burrow missed 6.5 games. You really think we win 4-5 of them?

Lol @ the part about Taylor being part of 1 offseason. Flores coached in the same SB and had to deal with covid too. 8-4 this year!

(12-11-2020, 11:48 PM)Benton Wrote: To the first:
Washington, W
NYG, W
Dolphins, W
Dallas, W
Steelers, L
Texans, W
Ravens, ?

So... yeah. Yeah, I really think if JB was walking, that's how we would've ended the season. 4-5 wins, and who knows with the Ravens. I mean, hell, we almost beat the Giants and Dolphins without a quarterback. Those games would've been blowouts with Burrow. In our second game with the Ravens, we might've been able to hold our own.



@ the 1 offseason. 

Flores? 

Common, man! Flores can't even lead the AFC East where Belichick was sending players home trying to tank, and the Jets aren't even gassing up the busses any more. The Bills are at the top of that division. The Bills. Why? Because Belichick was sending players home trying to tank, and the Jets aren't even gassing up the busses any more.

Next season the Phins will be back to six wins when Belichick feels like trying and the Jets at least attempt to win a game.

Even if I'm wrong and they're on the way up, they should be. The Phins have been picking inside the top 13 for 4-out-of-5 drafts. So, yeah, Flores should have walked into a solid roster.

Which is the point. Zac (and probably whoever comes in to replace him in a year) is walking into a roster we're just now building because for years Merv tried to limp along with micro rebuilds instead of just saying "you guys suck, this ain't working." 2020 was the best draft we've had in years. But it's going to take 3-4 of those to build a team.

(12-11-2020, 11:32 PM)WhoDave72 Wrote: Need to establish a culture of stopping the run,  this takes time. I think ZT needs another 3-4 years to turn it around...

(12-12-2020, 10:27 AM)TheBengals Wrote: 3-4 years?

Let's give him 20 more to turn it around!

(12-11-2020, 07:34 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Let me surmise the Front Office's view...

"Season was cut short due to pandemic.  No Preseason for a young HC.   1-9 in close games that a play here and play there could have easily flipped to 9-1.  Injuries, more injuries than most teams to key players like star QB, OL.  Team is in process of purging underperforming vets."  

It goes much higher than Zac Taylor. I said this before, Taylor was a bold risk taken by Katie et al and I applaud the Front Office for going out of their comfort zone.  Spending Record money, again out of their comfort zone.  The risk did not work out.  Taylor did not acquire the personnel to be successful.  It looked like most of the assistants and coordinators were his choice.  He made the wrong decisions.  It happens.  Nevertheless, Taylors youthful naivete and denial led to injuring his QB of the future.  He is not the right person for the job.

Another year will be wasted.  Another year off of JB contract.  So maybe after 2021 season the Bengals make another change.  Until they get football smart people in the organization, the cycle will repeat.

(12-12-2020, 08:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Giving Taylor another 3-4 years would be insane. They will have completely wasted Burrow’s rookie contract.

(12-12-2020, 10:20 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We havent scored a point in the 3rd quarter in Week 7. I think with Burrow, we beat maybe Dallas.

I think Wash beats us. They're pass rush was getting home. They likely shut us down in the 2nd half.

Giants beat us.

Dolphins? They're 8-4 and Zac has never won a road game. They beat us.

Texans is a toss up, but I think we have trouble with Watson and lose.

One thing you're not factoring in is when our offense is bad the defense is good and vice versa. So the defense you're seeing without Burrow, would probably be giving up 35 points a game with him.

This team finds ways to lose.

(12-12-2020, 08:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Giving Taylor another 3-4 years would be insane. They will have completely wasted Burrow’s rookie contract.