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Hopkins tore his ACL - Yojimbo - 01-04-2021
The hits keep for the Oline. Now we’ll need a new center for most of not all of next season.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Big_Ern - 01-04-2021
Good thing we have a first round center on the roster!
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - PlayadLc - 01-04-2021
Honestly, I kinda think we need a new one anyway.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - kalibengal - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 02:50 PM)Big_Ern Wrote: Good thing we have a first round center on the roster!
maybe the new O line coach can get Price to look like a 1st rounder
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Wyche'sWarrior - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 02:50 PM)Big_Ern Wrote: Good thing we have a first round center on the roster!
....and a grade A bust.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Nicomo Cosca - 01-04-2021
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RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Nicomo Cosca - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 02:52 PM)PlayadLc Wrote: Honestly, I kinda think we need a new one anyway.
No we don’t. Hopkins is solid. This is terrible news.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - TheLeonardLeap - 01-04-2021
Rough end of the season for Hopkins. Corey Linsley was already on my FA wishlist, this just makes that desire even stronger.
If Sewell is off the table....
Williams/Thuney/Linsley/XSF or Spain/2nd Round Pick is an OL that they can work with. There's a slew of 2nd round OL talent. Might even be able to get one who slips with their 3rd rounder as backup for Williams or as a RG option.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - ochocincos - 01-04-2021
Price's best performances have come at C. They also have BJ Finney under contract for 2021.
All hope might not be lost when it comes to a stopgap C until Hopkins returns.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - mikey6866 - 01-04-2021
Ive already been praying for us to sign Corey Linsley so maybe with this injury it may be a remote possibility.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Nicomo Cosca - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:13 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Price's best performances have come at C. They also have BJ Finney under contract for 2021.
All hope might not be lost when it comes to a stopgap C until Hopkins returns.
I can already see how this plays out: They start Price, he’s awful for 4-5 weeks. They finally make the switch to Finney, who’s clearly better, and should have been playing the entire time. But the damage is done, and we’re already in a huge hole.
And while Price was better at center than he was guard (very low bar), he still wasn’t good. He had a pass protection grade of 18 in his best game...
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - ochocincos - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:18 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I can already see how this plays out: They start Price, he’s awful for 4-5 weeks. They finally make the switch to Finney, who’s clearly better, and should have been playing the entire time. But the damage is done, and we’re already in a huge hole.
And while Price was better at center than he was guard (very low bar), he still wasn’t good. He had a pass protection grade of 18 in his best game...
That's false, at least for when he was full-time starter at C.
2018:
Snaps = 558
overall grade = 55.6
pass block = 66.0
run block = 57.3
Penalties = 7
Sacks = 1
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - schroomytunes - 01-04-2021
I still think he's a backup a best!! I'm all for upgrading 2-3 spots on the line next year anyways. To me I would like to see:
LT- Williams
LG- XSF
C- Tyler Shatley-(Jaguars)
RG- Jermaine Elumanur-(Patriots)
RT- Liam Eichenberg-(ND)
-Backups
1) F.Johnson-T
2) H. Adeniji-T
3) draft pick G
4) B.Price G/C
5) T.Hopkins-C/G most likely PUP list.
Cuts:
1) B.Hart-5.9
2) M.Johnson- 850k
3) BJ Finney- 3.5
=@ 10 million, that will go towards the FA upgrades on the O-Line
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - sonofstat - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 02:49 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: The hits keep for the Oline. Now we’ll need a new center for most of not all of next season.
dammit...oh well that will give Hobson another reason to explain away another season of inferior OL play this time next year (hopkins + williams injury)
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Nicomo Cosca - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:21 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That's false, at least for when he was full-time starter at C.
2018:
Snaps = 558
overall grade = 55.6
pass block = 66.0
run block = 57.3
Penalties = 7
Sacks = 1
I’m talking about his single game grade against the Titans (that he got a game ball for).
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Nicomo Cosca - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:22 PM)schroomytunes Wrote: I still think he's a backup a best!! I'm all for upgrading 2-3 spots on the line next year anyways. To me I would like to see:
LT- Williams
LG- XSF
C- Tyler Shatley-(Jaguars)
RG- Jermaine Elumanur-(Patriots)
RT- Liam Eichenberg-(ND)
-Backups
1) F.Johnson-T
2) H. Adeniji-T
3) draft pick G
4) B.Price G/C
5) T.Hopkins-C/G most likely PUP list.
Cuts:
1) B.Hart-5.9
2) M.Johnson- 850k
3) BJ Finney- 3.5
=@ 10 million, that will go towards the FA upgrades on the O-Line
Hopkins is a backup, but you want XSF starting? Give me the former as a starter over the the latter any day.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - ochocincos - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:47 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m talking about his single game grade against the Titans (that he got a game ball for).
But his best games at C came in 2018.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - mikey6866 - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:22 PM)schroomytunes Wrote: I still think he's a backup a best!! I'm all for upgrading 2-3 spots on the line next year anyways. To me I would like to see:
LT- Williams
LG- XSF
C- Tyler Shatley-(Jaguars)
RG- Jermaine Elumanur-(Patriots)
RT- Liam Eichenberg-(ND)
-Backups
1) F.Johnson-T
2) H. Adeniji-T
3) draft pick G
4) B.Price G/C
5) T.Hopkins-C/G most likely PUP list.
Cuts:
1) B.Hart-5.9
2) M.Johnson- 850k
3) BJ Finney- 3.5
=@ 10 million, that will go towards the FA upgrades on the O-Line
Mike Brown is that you? That starting line doesnt look much better than what we got. My definition and your definition of upgrade seem a little different.
We need to add one of : Lindsey, Thuney, Moton or Scherff. Quit going for stop gaps and pay somebody thats actually worth the money.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - Au165 - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Ok. Not really sure why that matters TBH. Look at his body of work at the position, not a single game. And at C, he's been ok. He's just been a terrible G.
He will need to get us through 4-6 games, I think that is possible and honestly if we invest in better quality guards he may look a lot better and become a tradeable asset at the deadline.
RE: Hopkins tore his ACL - ochocincos - 01-04-2021
(01-04-2021, 03:54 PM)Au165 Wrote: He will need to get us through 4-6 games, I think that is possible and honestly if we invest in better quality guards he may look a lot better and become a tradeable asset at the deadline.
Yep.
And I know people want to just draft a new guy all the time, but the Bengals don't have enough draft picks to draft someone for every position nor will they have enough cap space to sign a ton of guys in FA. We are going to have to live with some of these mediocre guys for another season whether we like it or not.