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Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - BFritz21 - 02-10-2021 Orlanda Brown wants out of Baltimore because he wants to play left tackle and the Ravens are looking for trade partners! Quote:OWINGS MILLS, Md. — Ravens general manager Eric DeCosta is already looking around the league for potential trades. <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> The Ravens need help at receiver, so maybe they'd take a package deal for AJ and a third or fourth round pick? I've wanted to keep AJ, but other people seem ready to let him go, so why not get something valuable in return? It might all be fluff, but it seems like there's a lot of interest in him and I doubt that we'd be at the top if his list of desirable destinations, but I doubt the Ravens will care much about his preferred landing spot, and, with all the uncertainty of the salary cap and overall offseason, it might be possible. It would open up our draft a lot and also help to stabilize our line for years to come since he's only 24! Who knows if they'd deal him to a rival in the division, but it's worth looking into! RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - BFritz21 - 02-10-2021 He might want to play with a young QB like Burrow and a block for a back like Mixon! RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - ochocincos - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 04:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Orlanda Brown wants out of Baltimore because he wants to play left tackle and the Ravens are looking for trade partners! AJ is set to be a FA, there would be no reason to trade unless he's re-signed by the Bengals first. The NFL is not really in the sign-and-trade model. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - J24 - 02-10-2021 We could tag and Trade Lawson for Brown RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - Au165 - 02-10-2021 They aren't trading him here, and it sure as hell won't be for a broken down WR that is an FA and a day 3 pick. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - XenoMorph - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 04:42 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: He might want to play with a young QB like Burrow and a block for a back like Mixon! not really about what he wants its about what baltimore considers fair compensation. Since we are in the division it will cost us a little more i think than a sending him out of the division. As far as the trade idea.. AJ isnt under contract cant be traded. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - TheLeonardLeap - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 04:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The Ravens need help at receiver, so maybe they'd take a package deal for AJ and a third or fourth round pick? I've wanted to keep AJ, but other people seem ready to let him go, so why not get something valuable in return? Only WRs the Bengals have under contract right now: Tyler Boyd Tee Higgins Auden Tate Stanley Morgan Trenton Irwin Scotty Washington Also zero chance that... A. The Ravens trade him in-division. B. The Ravens accept only a third or fourth for a back-to-back Pro Bowl OT heading into just his age 25 season that will cost a team only $920k. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - CKwi88 - 02-10-2021 AJ has literally zero trade value. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - TheLeonardLeap - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:01 PM)J24 Wrote: We could tag and Trade Lawson for Brown 2x Pro Bowl OT making $920k DE who hasn't reached 6 sacks since 2017 making $15m These aren't even slightly equal trading pieces. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - XenoMorph - 02-10-2021 if your trading you trade a draft pick this year and a conditional draft pick next year. Of what round and value idk.... As a young pro bowl OLer will be worth more than we will likely find in those picks anyways im 100% fine giving up draft picks for proven players. Just not to the point of crippling the franchise for years. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - Au165 - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:13 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: if your trading you trade a draft pick this year and a conditional draft pick next year. Of what round and value idk.... I think the conversation probably starts somewhere around a late 1, but probably not to a division rival. The other side of the argument is he wants to be a LT because he wants to be paid like a LT. There will be some degradation of value because of the contract in negotiations, but I think they'll be asking for a late 1 to start. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - XenoMorph - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:15 PM)Au165 Wrote: I think the conversation probably starts somewhere around a late 1, but probably not to a division rival. The other side of the argument is he wants to be a LT because he wants to be paid like a LT. There will be some degradation of value because of the contract in negotiations, but I think they'll be asking for a late 1 to start. So an early 2 and a ??? 2-4 next year might fill the value. when is he due to be paid? RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - Au165 - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:18 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: So an early 2 and a ??? 2-4 next year might fill the value. when is he due to be paid? Maybe the value to someone else, that probably doesn't fly for us as the whole in division tax. He is on the last year of his deal this coming season. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - higgy100 - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:06 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: AJ has literally zero trade value. And that's when he's wearing sunday best. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - The Gooney Rule - 02-10-2021 I might have missed some other's thought on this one crucial point of the whole conversation: He wants to be traded to a place where he can play LT. So if the Bengals somehow manage to provide enough value for Baltimore to pull the trigger, does that mean it's a given that Williams gets moved to RT? Is he fine with that? Granted Williams has been injured his first two years, and Brown has played well, but wouldn't Williams be reluctant to switch to the right side for the same logical reasons Brown wants to move to the left - fair or not, LT's usually get paid more? I would just be wary of giving a division rival a hefty sum to bring in and appease a guy who has already demanded a trade for financial reasons (and a guy who supposedly had some questions about his motivation coming out of college, if I remember correctly), only to then have a delicate conversation with your own high-draft pick currently at Left Tackle, and hope that investment stays happy and productive forcing him to switch positions. I haven't checked, but won't those two tackle contracts (Brown and Williams) come due at the same time? (Or maybe Williams get a 5th yr option before having to re-up, actually.) But it's likely both of those contracts won't get renewed, so I'm wondering if it's not better to invest heavily in a 1 or 2 yr quality FA lineman now, and draft a quality tackle prospect this year to stagger the due dates on these contracts while getting the maximum value out of each year's salary cap and level of talent across the whole position? (Side muse - I suppose anything to dump Hart's contract would be a positive impact for the team, even if it means shuffling Williams to RT, should he be agreeable to that.) RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - Benton - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:39 PM)The Gooney Rule Wrote: I might have missed some other's thought on this one crucial point of the whole conversation: Jonah is only as good as his back up at the moment. He may want to be an lt, but he going to have to play more than six games every two years. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - J24 - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 05:11 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 2x Pro Bowl OT making $920kLawson was top 5 in pressures this season, top 10 in sacks created per ESPN, and both had the same PFF rating at 76.4. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - TheLeonardLeap - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 06:22 PM)J24 Wrote: Lawson was top 5 in pressures this season, top 10 in sacks created per ESPN, and both had the same PFF rating at 76.4. How can you be Top-10 in sacks created on a team that finished dead last with 17 sacks? That makes me intensely suspicious on that stat being complete BS. There was 10 players with 10 ACTUAL sacks on their own. Either way, good luck on trading a $15m 5 sack DE for a $1m Pro Bowl OT. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - Synric - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 07:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: How can you be Top-10 in sacks created on a team that finished dead last with 17 sacks? That makes me intensely suspicious on that stat being complete BS. Sacks created is a new metric for pass rushers it showes Lawson's initial pressure forced the QB into a sack by another player. Also if you're trading a high round pick or high caliber player for Orlando Brown it will be with an extension. Think 5 year 17m to 20m a year. RE: Orlando Brown Wants Out Of Baltimore! - J24 - 02-10-2021 (02-10-2021, 07:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: How can you be Top-10 in sacks created on a team that finished dead last with 17 sacks? That makes me intensely suspicious on that stat being complete BS. (02-10-2021, 09:07 PM)Synric Wrote: Sacks created is a new metric for pass rushers it showes Lawson's initial pressure forced the QB into a sack by another player. Exactly! Rep to you! |