(02-12-2021, 06:29 AM)SErebel11 Wrote: My attempt at Bengals off-season moves

Re-sign:
Brandon Allen 2 yrs/3M
Samaje Perine 1yr/1M
Josh Bynes 1yr/2.5M
Carl Lawson 4yrs/48M
CJ Uzomah 2yrs/5M
Christian Covington 1yr/2M
Mike Thomas 1yr/1M
Clark Harris 1yr/1.1M
Kevin Huber 2yrs/6M
Mackenzie Alexander 3yrs/15M
Quinton Spain 3yrs/15M
Brandon Wilson 2yrs/4M

Cuts:
Bobby Hart
CJ Uzomah
Michael Jordan
BJ Finney
Ryan Finley
Mason Schreck

Offense:

QB:
Burrow, Allen

RB:
Mixon, Bernard, Williams, Perine

OL:
The Bengals should address the offensive line through free agency or trades in my opinion. I do not foresee Cincinnati signing Moton or paying a guard 14+ million dollars this off-season but that does not mean that the Bengals cannot upgrade the offensive line in a big way.

Move #1
Trade Geno Atkins to Minnesota for LT Reilly Reiff
Extend Reiff for 3 yrs/40M
Reiff is 33 years old and had a really good season for the Vikings. They drafted Ezra Cleveland and Reiff could be a candidate to be cut anyway. They are desperately needing interior defensive line help. I think a re-union with Zimmer would be a welcome sight for both parties as I believe Geno still has something left in the tank. The trade makes sense for both sides.

Move #2
Sign Matt Feiler 3yrs/18M
He is a versatile OL that can play at G and RT.

These two moves gives the Bengals a ton of versatility along the offensive line as injuries do happen and Jonah Williams has been a durability issue to this point.

Going into the draft:
Reiff LT
Williams RT/G
Spain G
Feiler G/RT
S'ua-Filo G
Johnson G/T
Price C/G
Hopkins C
Adeniji T

WR:
Sign Tyrell Williams 1 yr/4M
Williams sat out last season with a labrum injury and is almost certainly to be cut at his number by the Raiders. He won't count against the compensatory formula either. At 29 years old he is a good candidate to bounce back and be a productive member of the receiving core.

Going into the draft:
Boyd
Higgins
Williams
Tate
Morgan
Thomas

TE:
Going into the draft:
Cut and re-sign or renegotiate Uzomah 2yrs/5M
Sample
Wilcox
Defense:

Defensive Line
Re-signing Lawson is a must at this point in my view.

Acquisition through trade:
Cincinnati trades a 7th round pick to Denver for DT Jurrell Casey
Denver acquired Casey from the Texans for a 7th round pick last off-season and he sat all season with a biceps injury. He is owed nearly 12M this season and nearly 14M next season but none of the money is guaranteed so he could be cut without cap issues if need be next off-season. He is worth a trade and can replace Geno inside. He is likely a cap cut for Denver so he should be available.

Dline under contract going into the draft:

Lawson
Casey
Reader
Hubbard
Tupua
Wren
Covington
Kareem

LB:
With re-signing Bynes the Bengals go into the draft with
Bynes
Wilson
Davis-Gaither
Pratt
Bailey

CB:
I don't have a Bengals and Jackson reunion in the cards even though I feel like he is a good player. Lawson take priority and with the additions of Casey and the 2 offensive linemen there isn't enough money to go around.

Sign Gareon Conley 1yr/3M

Going into the draft
Waynes
Conley
Phillips
Alexander
Rose

S:
Bates
Bell
Wilson

LS Harris
P Huber

Bengals draft:
Bengals trade #5 to SF for #12, 43, 117
SF drafts Zach Wilson QB BYU

#12 Bengals select Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech
I have seen this guy mocked at anywhere from 4 to 16. If he is there, I like the fit and value for the Bengals.
Alternate selection Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan

#38 Bengals select Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
I don't know how important the TE position is in the current offense but this guy is a playmaker and would help the offense immensely if deployed correctly. He was also a captain on the team,

#43 Bengals select Alim McNeill DT NC State
I know a lot of people are mocking a 2nd round pick of Nixon but I don't think he gets out of the first round. This guy has similar upside and is a beast of a man.

#69 Dayo Odeyingbo DE Vanderbilt
This guy has a lot of upside at 6'6” and 275 pounds. He will likely get better coaching than he did at Vanderbilt and has a lot of tools to work with. He was another team captain.

Alternate pick if Paye is the first pick:
Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan St

#111 Kendrick Green, IOL, Illinois
Solid IOL prospect that has experience at both G and C.

#117 Baron Browning, LB, Ohio State
Developmental linebacker that is raw in his reads but has a ton of physical attributes.

#150 Dazz Newsome WR UNC
Shifty wideout with a good feel for route running. Can make explosive plays after the catch. Also, has value in the return game.

#192 Tariq Thompson, S, SD State
Safety prospect that has special teams value.

#231 Evan McPherson K Florida
Kicker competition for Bullock

QB:
Burrow
Allen

RB:
Mixon
Bernard
Williams
Perine

OL
Reiff LT
Williams RT/G
Spain G
Feiler G/RT
S'ua-Filo G
Johnson G/T
Price C/G
Hopkins C
Adeniji T
Green G/C

WR:
Boyd
Higgins
Williams
Tate
Morgan
Thomas
Newsome
TE:
Freiermuth
Uzomah
Sample
Wilcox

DL:
Lawson
Casey
Reader
Hubbard
Tupua/Wren
Covington
Kareem
McNeill
Odeyingbo

LB:
Bynes
Wilson
Davis-Gaither
Pratt
Bailey
Browning

CB:
Waynes
Farley
Conley
Phillips
Alexander
Rose

S:
Bates
Bell
Wilson
Thompson

LS: Harris
P:Huber
K: McPherson or Bullock

(02-17-2021, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No way the Bengals could pull a good, cheap RT in Havenstein away from Rams for just a 2021 4th and 2022 5th.
You're gonna have to give them AT LEAST a 2nd rounder.

(02-17-2021, 08:06 PM)pulses Wrote: The rams are still 25 mill over the cap and are gonna have to make some more moves so ya never know.

(02-17-2021, 09:18 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Doubt they'd move someone that cheap over one of the overpriced veterans.

(02-17-2021, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No way the Bengals could pull a good, cheap RT in Havenstein away from Rams for just a 2021 4th and 2022 5th.
You're gonna have to give them AT LEAST a 2nd rounder.

(02-17-2021, 09:26 PM)SErebel11 Wrote: 1 year of LT Trent Williams who is regarded as a much better tackle and plays on the the left side as opposed to the right side went for a 5th and next year third just last off-season so this valuation should be closer than that of a 2nd round pick. Havenstein graded out poorly in 2019. PFF had him as 74th/81 tackles. He bounced back last season and had a good year. He does have 2 years left on his deal but as I said has been in consistent which is why they might consider moving him in the first place.

(02-17-2021, 09:32 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Trent Williams was in the final year of his contract whereas Havenstein has two years and is four years younger than Williams.
That's why I think he would fetch more than what you said.
Maybe you're right though. We won't ever know unless/until he's traded.

(02-17-2021, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No way the Bengals could pull a good, cheap RT in Havenstein away from Rams for just a 2021 4th and 2022 5th.
You're gonna have to give them AT LEAST a 2nd rounder.

(02-18-2021, 05:03 PM)Synric Wrote: Apparently the Rams are shopping Rob Havenstein and it's looking like for a day 3 pick.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/gm-report/rams-right-tackle-rob-havenstein-available-via-trade-could-pique-bengals-interest

(02-17-2021, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No way the Bengals could pull a good, cheap RT in Havenstein away from Rams for just a 2021 4th and 2022 5th.
You're gonna have to give them AT LEAST a 2nd rounder.

(02-19-2021, 09:12 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Good and cheap?

I see a cap hit of 8.3 mil for this year. And he is in the conversation because they don’t like the way he has been playing. He may be the Rams version of Bobby Hart. Expect at some point he was actually good.

I take that back. Guess I’m stuck in the past. He sucked in 2019 because of a knee injury. Apparently he bounced back and played well last year after an offseason training at Whits house...

(02-17-2021, 09:35 PM)SErebel11 Wrote: Also, considering the salary cap situation for most teams this off-season is making draft picks more valuable this year than in a normal year so teams are going to be less likely to use picks to trade for a guy unless he is a huge difference maker. I could be wrong but I feel like I am close.

(02-19-2021, 10:39 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Good in both 2020 and 2018. Havenstein was the 14th rated OT on PFF. Bengals OTs were 44 and 49. He's not quite as young as I thought, but he's not a high expense. I don't consider $8.3 mill very high for a good RT.

With that said, if they are actively trying to move him, they may be willing to take lower than they think he's worth just to get his salary off the books.