(02-21-2021, 12:42 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: So, for those that don't know, the University of Cincinnati is looking at building a new indoor facility.  

See here: https://theathletic.com/2377789/2021/02/10/cincinnati-bearcats-football-practice-facility/  

(This is an Athletic article, so if you don't have a subscription you'll just have to take my word for it.)

UC built their own practice bubble a few years back for, I think, around 11 million.  Well, now they feel like they need a true indoor facility to attract recruits and continue to build the football program.

Some of you may remember that when UC initially looked into have an indoor facility, before the bubbble, that they approached the Bengals about going in with them to build a shared space, similar to the U of Pitt and the Steelers.  The Bengals declined, and as a result UC scrapped the project, went smaller, and that's how they ended up with the cheaper "bubble".

So now we're kinda right back to square one.  UC is planning a new facility and is currently in the preliminary stages.  They've already spoken of fundraising and there's been talks of zoning and a lot of other boring stuff.

Now is a perfect time for the Bengals to join with the Bearcats to build something that both teams greatly need, and will greatly benefit from.  Between the two of them, perhaps along with UC Health having medical facilities on sight, they could partner up to have a fantastic, state of the art, indoor facility.

Also, in a lot of the talks right now it's been said that UC most likely will have to build this off-campus.  There isn't much space at UC and there's zoning issues as well.  Well, for those of you out of town, know that UC and PBS are only 5 miles apart.  You can drive from UC to PBS in under 10 minutes.  So if they do go off-campus it makes perfect sense to plop down somewhere between the school and downtown.

Anyways, I just thought this may be interesting to watch.  The Bengals are desperately trying to win over fans, and they're long overdue to have an indoor space.  UC is desperate for money, as the school can't pay for a 40+ mil facility on their own, and they'll lean on alumni and boosters.

I'm not saying a team-up on the project is likely, but I do think it makes perfect sense.  Although I thought the same last time UC looked into this as well, and the Bengals passed.  But maybe this time they'll wise up.

(02-21-2021, 01:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If we got both a ring of honor, and an indoor practice facility it would truly be a sign the times are a changing. And that Mike has officially passed the torch to Katie. It just makes so much sense. I’m obviously not holding my breath though.

(02-21-2021, 02:05 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Does anyone have any idea why Mike is so against building an indoor facility? At this point, it feels like he’s against it only because people have been hounding him for it for so long.

(02-21-2021, 02:22 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: One thing that I think is currently hanging in the air is the stadium lease renewal.

It expires in 2026, but negotiations are due to start next year in 2022.  The Bengals might be wary to pump money into a facility until they know they're going to be here long-term.

This is a topic for another thread, but I'm getting more and more worried about the county and the team being able to come to an agreement.  The county is broke, and just hiked up their taxes.  Public support is at one of it's lowest levels ever, and the county commisioners said any tax increase would go before the voters.  On the flip side, Katie and Troy could choose to go somewhere else for a HUGE payday.  I don't think many realize just how important it is for the Bengals to start getting better in a hurry and filling up PBS again.

(02-21-2021, 02:05 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Does anyone have any idea why Mike is so against building an indoor facility? At this point, it feels like he’s against it only because people have been hounding him for it for so long.

(02-21-2021, 02:31 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I may be wrong as I have not seen proof, but my guess is Mike Brown has given up majority shares of the Bengals to Katie for tax purposes. It would make sense they do it sooner than later (his death).

My point is I don't think MB is now the final say of any decision, I think it is Katie.

(02-21-2021, 03:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: And once again, it all circles back to the same question. Where are you going to put it? I think teaming with UC to build one makes sense, but there has to be a place available. I don't live there anymore, so is there even a place between downtown and Clifton to put one?

(02-21-2021, 04:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: FC Cincinnati found a place to build a 26,000 seat soccer stadium in the west end. Availability of space is not an excuse. If the Bengals truly wanted a practice facility it would have been built years ago.

(02-21-2021, 12:42 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: So, for those that don't know, the University of Cincinnati is looking at building a new indoor facility.  

See here: https://theathletic.com/2377789/2021/02/10/cincinnati-bearcats-football-practice-facility/  

(This is an Athletic article, so if you don't have a subscription you'll just have to take my word for it.)

UC built their own practice bubble a few years back for, I think, around 11 million.  Well, now they feel like they need a true indoor facility to attract recruits and continue to build the football program.

Some of you may remember that when UC initially looked into have an indoor facility, before the bubbble, that they approached the Bengals about going in with them to build a shared space, similar to the U of Pitt and the Steelers.  The Bengals declined, and as a result UC scrapped the project, went smaller, and that's how they ended up with the cheaper "bubble".

So now we're kinda right back to square one.  UC is planning a new facility and is currently in the preliminary stages.  They've already spoken of fundraising and there's been talks of zoning and a lot of other boring stuff.

Now is a perfect time for the Bengals to join with the Bearcats to build something that both teams greatly need, and will greatly benefit from.  Between the two of them, perhaps along with UC Health having medical facilities on sight, they could partner up to have a fantastic, state of the art, indoor facility.

Also, in a lot of the talks right now it's been said that UC most likely will have to build this off-campus.  There isn't much space at UC and there's zoning issues as well.  Well, for those of you out of town, know that UC and PBS are only 5 miles apart.  You can drive from UC to PBS in under 10 minutes.  So if they do go off-campus it makes perfect sense to plop down somewhere between the school and downtown.

Anyways, I just thought this may be interesting to watch.  The Bengals are desperately trying to win over fans, and they're long overdue to have an indoor space.  UC is desperate for money, as the school can't pay for a 40+ mil facility on their own, and they'll lean on alumni and boosters.

I'm not saying a team-up on the project is likely, but I do think it makes perfect sense.  Although I thought the same last time UC looked into this as well, and the Bengals passed.  But maybe this time they'll wise up.

(02-21-2021, 01:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If we got both a ring of honor, and an indoor practice facility it would truly be a sign the times are a changing. And that Mike has officially passed the torch to Katie. It just makes so much sense. I’m obviously not holding my breath though.

(02-21-2021, 02:05 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Does anyone have any idea why Mike is so against building an indoor facility? At this point, it feels like he’s against it only because people have been hounding him for it for so long.

(02-21-2021, 02:22 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: One thing that I think is currently hanging in the air is the stadium lease renewal.

It expires in 2026, but negotiations are due to start next year in 2022.  The Bengals might be wary to pump money into a facility until they know they're going to be here long-term.

This is a topic for another thread, but I'm getting more and more worried about the county and the team being able to come to an agreement.  The county is broke, and just hiked up their taxes.  Public support is at one of it's lowest levels ever, and the county commisioners said any tax increase would go before the voters.  On the flip side, Katie and Troy could choose to go somewhere else for a HUGE payday.  I don't think many realize just how important it is for the Bengals to start getting better in a hurry and filling up PBS again.

(02-21-2021, 04:29 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That didn't answer the question. Is there a place close to UC and PBS? Looking at an aerial view it appears the only place that doesn't have something on it is an empty lot of some kind at Ezzard Charles and John St, and that does not appear large enough. They'd have to buy something and tear it down.

(02-21-2021, 08:59 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I seriously doubt Cincinnati is the only city in all of the NFL that “can’t fit an indoor facility” literally anywhere around town. That’s ridiculous.

There’s one big (and obvious) reason we don’t have one: $$$

(02-21-2021, 09:25 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Fwiw, Dallas' facility is in another city!!!!  It's in Frisco Texas, which is about 30 miles away from Dallas.

I'm postive there are other examples, as I know a lot of NFL teams don't have their facilities within blocks of the stadium, but this is one that always comes to mind.