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Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Nicomo Cosca - 02-22-2021
Curious what folks think of this kid? I never see him mentioned as an option for us even though IOL is a huge need. I’ve seen a little bit of him at Georgia, but wasn’t focused solely on him at the time. Could he be a good option for us in 3rd or 4th? Would he be a good scheme fit for Pollack? It sounds like he’s not one of the top guards coming out, but has a pretty high floor.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - pulses - 02-23-2021
(02-22-2021, 11:28 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Curious what folks think of this kid? I never see him mentioned as an option for us even though IOL is a huge need. I’ve seen a little bit of him at Georgia, but wasn’t focused solely on him at the time. Could he be a good option for us in 3rd or 4th? Would he be a good scheme fit for Pollack? It sounds like he’s not one of the top guards coming out, but has a pretty high floor.
He's pretty solid but I like David Moore in the 4th or 5th a little better.
Here is SI.com's current guard rankings
https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-offensive-guard
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Nicomo Cosca - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 02:20 AM)pulses Wrote: He's pretty solid but I like David Moore in the 4th or 5th a little better.
Here is SI.com's current guard rankings
https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-offensive-guard
Interesting that they have Slater as a G...
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - SErebel11 - 02-23-2021
(02-22-2021, 11:28 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Curious what folks think of this kid? I never see him mentioned as an option for us even though IOL is a huge need. I’ve seen a little bit of him at Georgia, but wasn’t focused solely on him at the time. Could he be a good option for us in 3rd or 4th? Would he be a good scheme fit for Pollack? It sounds like he’s not one of the top guards coming out, but has a pretty high floor.
He is one of the best pass blocking guards in the class. According to PFF, he gave up 0 sacks and 12 pressures and 1 QB hit in 506 snaps in the SEC the last 2 seasons. I think the issue with him is he doesn't have the mobility to play in a wide zone blocking scheme . He is more of a power downhill guy. A Titans type of guard.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Nicomo Cosca - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 03:16 AM)SErebel11 Wrote: He is one of the best pass blocking guards in the class. According to PFF, he gave up 0 sacks and 12 pressures and 1 QB hit in 506 snaps in the SEC the last 2 seasons. I think the issue with him is he doesn't have the mobility to play in a wide zone blocking scheme . He is more of a power downhill guy. A Titans type of guard.
Ah ok. Thanks. This is the type of info I was looking for. I was just wondering if he might be a nice day 3 target for us. The last mid round OG we took out of Georgia worked out pretty well...
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - pulses - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 03:03 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Interesting that they have Slater as a G...
Slater will be a stud OG in the NFL.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 02-23-2021
Cleveland is a very strong guy, but doesn't move very well; think Will Hernandez, Stenberg or Warford.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - TJHoushmandzadeh's Shiny Shoes - 02-23-2021
(02-22-2021, 11:28 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Curious what folks think of this kid? I never see him mentioned as an option for us even though IOL is a huge need. I’ve seen a little bit of him at Georgia, but wasn’t focused solely on him at the time. Could he be a good option for us in 3rd or 4th? Would he be a good scheme fit for Pollack? It sounds like he’s not one of the top guards coming out, but has a pretty high floor.
Not sure he's a good scheme fit for us.
For a zone scheme the better fits on O-line (and I've widened it out from merely guard) would seem to be
1st rounders
Sewell/Darrisaw/Slater/Vera-Tucker, maybe Davis, Jalen Mayfield
2nd round
Samuel Cosmi
3rd round
James Hudson
Walker Little
Spencer Brown
Josh Myers
4th round and beyond
Robert Hainsey
David Moore
Josh Ball
Jack Anderson
Dan Moore Jr
Bryce Hargrove
Adrian Ealy
Jaylon Moore
Cordell Volson
Drew Dalman
Jimmy Morrissey
Ryan McCollum
Royce Newman
That's not so say that they wouldn't take someone who was less good of a scheme fit - only that scheme fit means other teams are likely to value them slightly higher than the Bengals.s
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - bfine32 - 03-17-2021
Talk of him breaking the Bench Press record ended at 30 reps
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - StoneTheCrow - 03-17-2021
Terrible first and last name combo.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 03-17-2021
(03-17-2021, 03:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Talk of him breaking the Bench Press record ended at 30 reps
He literally performed opposite of every single thing I read; he ran well and he did decently on BP, as opposed to being a lead weight and all-world strong.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - NATI BENGALS - 03-18-2021
DAAAAAMMMMNNN 4.85 40 at 343lbs? He is going early.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-18-2021
(03-17-2021, 04:42 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Terrible first and last name combo.
Epic observation with humor LMAO!!!
Still would be for this guy though as he is athletic and extremely strong. A little like Meinerz but from a big school.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - samhain - 03-20-2021
(02-23-2021, 12:32 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Cleveland is a very strong guy, but doesn't move very well; think Will Hernandez, Stenberg or Warford.
If he's Warfod when Warford was healthy, then you jump all over that shit.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - pulses - 03-20-2021
(03-20-2021, 12:13 AM)samhain Wrote: If he's Warfod when Warford was healthy, then you jump all over that shit.
He's not warford. Cleveland belongs in a power scheme where he can maul.
RE: Thoughts on Ben Cleveland? - Essex Johnson - 03-20-2021
(02-22-2021, 11:28 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Curious what folks think of this kid? I never see him mentioned as an option for us even though IOL is a huge need. I’ve seen a little bit of him at Georgia, but wasn’t focused solely on him at the time. Could he be a good option for us in 3rd or 4th? Would he be a good scheme fit for Pollack? It sounds like he’s not one of the top guards coming out, but has a pretty high floor.
If we are going to draft projects, i prefer not to be at a position of need like Oline.. im guessing you prefer no projects at WR correct? I want a pencil in starter at guard if we are drafting them.. From everything i have read Cleveland is projected as a project...