(03-06-2021, 12:10 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 4- Amari Rodgers - WR Clemson - 5'9" 211lbs - He is a weapon. Same recruiting class as Tee Higgins. Clemson has been producing solid WRs lately. Amari contributed to 4 straight BCS playoff teams right? Son of Tee Martin National Champ who played with Peyton Manning and Jamal Lewis in college, and became the Ravens WR coach this year. I always go back to Amari when I am looking for a mid round WR to plug in to a mock. I hope he falls through the cracks for our sake.

(03-06-2021, 11:25 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Well done. I can tell that you put a bit of thought into that scenario. 19 might be perceived as a bit early for Eichenburg, but if the Bengals see him as a good fit, so be it. Hard to make a case against any of your other first 6 picks, as I see them all as really good prospects. Love the 7th round pick on the WR.

(03-06-2021, 12:38 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: First and foremost I think the trade back with Washington is an incredible idea as I’ve done it before. I think it’s the best spot to load up on picks and still be able to land a top tackle in round 1 while also adding a couple more picks Ehhhh not a huge fan of Havenstein so losing a draft pick and cap to a player I don’t like is a bad taste for me. Only reason I’m ok with it is cuz we have hart which is quite dubious. Also all day I’m going Ronnie Perkins in the second all day before the kid from Texas... also I’ve seen Basham jr available early in the second as well so I’m def taking him wayyyyyyyy before joseph as well. also Perkins is the Only player to score above 90 in pass rush and run stop. Plus has the size and athletic ability to never come off the field playing stand up linebacker as well. I like Milton Williams over tommy in the 3rd he’s supremely stout but also provides that pass rush element that geno has plus he can move up n down the line.
Love Liam tho and adebo. Adebo I’m a huge fan of. Amari Rogers to me is just a draft pick I don’t think Rogers does anything in this league.
It’s good work just giving my honest opinion on personnel.
Thanks brother

(03-06-2021, 04:13 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Absolutely love the pick and he is the type of weapon people keep saying we need. Also, a great spot to go WR as we can use the front of the draft to load up on starters that need to be replaced, and add in a 3rd WR later who will develop.

Rodgers is going to be a special weapon at the next level and having watched all the Clemson games this season, I have no clue why he isn't getting the attention as a higher round pick.

Runs a 4.4 40 yard dash and doesn't drop many passes.

In 130 targets he had 4 drops.

(03-06-2021, 04:13 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Absolutely love the pick and he is the type of weapon people keep saying we need. Also, a great spot to go WR as we can use the front of the draft to load up on starters that need to be replaced, and add in a 3rd WR later who will develop.

Rodgers is going to be a special weapon at the next level and having watched all the Clemson games this season, I have no clue why he isn't getting the attention as a higher round pick.

Runs a 4.4 40 yard dash and doesn't drop many passes.

In 130 targets he had 4 drops.

(03-07-2021, 04:38 AM)Whatever Wrote: He's undersized, not very shifty, not great in and out of his breaks, and has torn an ACL in college.  That's why he's down the draft boards.

I think he's a good overall prospect.  Problem is, he's primarily been a slot WR in college, so he's not a good option for a team that's paying it's slot WR $11 mil a year and desperately needs an outside receiver, which he doesn't project to.   You can use him outside some, but he's not the full time outside WR we need.

(03-07-2021, 07:54 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: People said the exact same thing about Antonio Brown.

Undersized or not, I watched every Clemson game and the kid is a Pro-ready weapon.

They used him in the slot, but that doesn't mean he has to stay there, plus with the way the team lines up anymore with the bunch formation and the empty sets, it really isn't about slot or x or y, it's about a guy that can just get open and make plays and in that aspect, Rodgers can absolutely do it and wouldn't force us to waste an early round pick on a Chase or Pitts.

(03-07-2021, 08:56 PM)Whatever Wrote: People said the same thing about Mario Alford, too.  I don't think you really want to get into a comparison of Day 3 undersized WR busts vs success stories.

If he's a pro ready weapon, why Is he being evaluated as a Day 3 pick?  Because he doesn't run a full route tree, either.  How can you predict he's going to be able to move outside if he can't run a full route tree, yet?  Even in bunch formations and empty sets, there are still outside WR's.  Hoping a Day 3 pick can change roles and be immediately productive is not a formula for success.

(03-07-2021, 09:02 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Why if we are still so in love with a tiny fast guy in a big mans game are we not just gonna resign John Ross.  Guys the fastest ever in the nfl and has def shown the ability to play in the league....I know the guy has a bunch of question marks in regards to health wanting to be here etc but y not if small and fast is what we want just resign Ross if u can and I know that’s a big if but I def don’t buy into all the Amari Rogers hype at all and I think there’s a much bigger if on a day 3 tiny little guy like Rogers than the if in regards to Ross wanting to play here and him getting on the field.  I’d much rather take my chances on a talent like Ross than the completely unknown in A day 3 pick like Rogers.  Just saying.

(03-07-2021, 11:00 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Beautiful Mock is all I can say. Love all the picks and love the FA in getting Thuney and Havenstein.

I would bring back Spain though, cut Geno and bring in Sheldon Rankins.

(03-07-2021, 08:56 PM)Whatever Wrote: People said the same thing about Mario Alford, too.  I don't think you really want to get into a comparison of Day 3 undersized WR busts vs success stories.

If he's a pro ready weapon, why Is he being evaluated as a Day 3 pick?  Because he doesn't run a full route tree, either.  How can you predict he's going to be able to move outside if he can't run a full route tree, yet?  Even in bunch formations and empty sets, there are still outside WR's.  Hoping a Day 3 pick can change roles and be immediately productive is not a formula for success.

(03-07-2021, 09:02 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Why if we are still so in love with a tiny fast guy in a big mans game are we not just gonna resign John Ross.  Guys the fastest ever in the nfl and has def shown the ability to play in the league....I know the guy has a bunch of question marks in regards to health wanting to be here etc but y not if small and fast is what we want just resign Ross if u can and I know that’s a big if but I def don’t buy into all the Amari Rogers hype at all and I think there’s a much bigger if on a day 3 tiny little guy like Rogers than the if in regards to Ross wanting to play here and him getting on the field.  I’d much rather take my chances on a talent like Ross than the completely unknown in A day 3 pick like Rogers.  Just saying.

(03-08-2021, 03:10 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I'll just leave this here.....

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/patriots-have-met-clemson-receiver-amari-rodgers-multiple-times

A team that is better at NFL talent evaluator then you or anyone else on this board is meeting with him several times.... so let's just go ahead and say that if the hoodie sees something in him, then the rest of the league should probably take notice. Unless of course you believe you know more then the most successful NFL coach in recent history. 

(03-08-2021, 11:18 AM)Whatever Wrote: Edelman is 35 and in a contract year, so it makes sense to look at slot WR's that they can develop behind him for a year.  We aren't in the market for a developmental slot WR because Boyd is in his 20's and has several years left on his deal.

Just because the Pats are meeting with him doesn't mean he will be able to move outside or be an immediate contributer, either.  Teams meet with Day 3 prospects all the time.  It doesn't mean they think they are immediate starters or even that they are going to draft them.  Oftentimes, when teams have multiple meetings with a prospect, it's because they have interest, but have a number of questions they need to get answered.  

(03-07-2021, 09:15 PM)pulses Wrote: Because I'd much rather have a Elijah Moore or Jaelon Darden or a Tylan Wallace or a Dyami Brown.....you know guys who actually produced and stayed healthy  unlike Ross in college or the NFL.