(05-07-2021, 04:54 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Stats at ProFootballReference.com are a little confusing.

Team stats says Bengals defense faced 1021 snaps, but individual stats give Jesse Bates credit for playing 1050 snaps on defense (and 62 more on special teams).

But even though I can not swear to the exact accuracy I still think you will get my point.  These are the defensive snap counts for our CBs last year not counting special teams)

Jackson......................................................886
LeShaun Sims/Jalen Davis/Tony Brown...........773
Alexander...................................................642
Phillips........................................................593
Waynes.....................................................   0


Our CB corps was crippled last year.  The scrubs played more than three of our best CBs.

(05-07-2021, 04:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: So really, just one scrub played more than one of the best CBs.

(05-07-2021, 04:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Breaking down each of the scrubs:
Sims - 606
Brown - 95
Davis - 72

So really, just one scrub played more than one of the best CBs.

(05-07-2021, 07:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Doesn't matter to me if it was one scrub or ten. I am lumping them all in one basket called "scrub snaps".  And we had a lot of them. We could have dealt with the loss of Waynes much better if we had not lost Alexander for 3 games, Jackson for 2, and Phillips for 4.

(05-07-2021, 09:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's true that the "basket of scrubs" gave up a lot of plays, missed a bunch of tackles, and cost the team some games.  However, they got one thing that they normally would not have, a ton of developmental reps.

Just sad that those reps came at the expense of the Bengals win/loss totals..

(05-08-2021, 06:13 AM)spazz70 Wrote: "Developmental reps"?  It was Simms 5th year in the league...He is just a scrub

(05-08-2021, 08:16 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Now that, I did not realize.  Yeah, he's just not very good.

(05-08-2021, 08:29 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: LOL  You're too kind Sunset.

(05-07-2021, 09:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's true that the "basket of scrubs" gave up a lot of plays, missed a bunch of tackles, and cost the team some games.  However, they got one thing that they normally would not have, a ton of developmental reps.

Just sad that those reps came at the expense of the Bengals win/loss totals..

(05-08-2021, 02:06 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Last year Sims was 27 with 4 years of NFL experience under his belt.  He was already finished "developing".

Tony Brown and Jalen Davis both had 2 years of NFL experience before last season.

If we had gotten that type of play out of rookies I would have at least had some hope that they might improve dramatically for this season.  But all 3 of these guys will be in at least their 4th NFL season.  It is pretty rare to see big leaps in production this late in their careers.

They are scrubs.  I would rather play rookies this year than see them any more.  But hopefully our top 4 CBs won't all get knocked out with injury and miss a combined  25 games.  That was brutal.