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Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - CJD - 09-28-2021 I didn't notice it during the game, but apparently Zac sent Mike Hilton out for the two victory formation kneel downs at the end of the game. Per the Athletic article recapping the game: Quote:8. Hilton admitted the game was “definitely personal for me.” So you have a guy who, let's be honest, probably chose Cincinnati because he wanted to play against the Steelers, the team that he felt slighted by and, in the game where we beat his former team, our coach sends him out for both the coin toss AND the victory formation kneel downs. Based on the quotes from Hilton, he seems like he really appreciated the gesture. Say what you want about ZT, but he knows how to get his players on his side. Honestly, that may be the most dangerous part about him haha. How do you fire a coach that the players all love? RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Truck_1_0_1_ - 09-28-2021 Past issues aside, we THOROUGHLY outcoached Tomlin yesterday, for the 2nd straight time (and arguably the 3rd time out of 6; took a B.W. Webb slip on a slick field, to lose one of the games). RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Sled21 - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:49 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Past issues aside, we THOROUGHLY outcoached Tomlin yesterday, for the 2nd straight time (and arguably the 3rd time out of 6; took a B.W. Webb slip on a slick field, to lose one of the games). Zac Taylor... Stiller Killer!!! ![]() RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - PhilHos - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:20 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I didn't notice it during the game, but apparently Zac sent Mike Hilton out for the two victory formation kneel downs at the end of the game. Like I've said, there's enough to show that ZT could become a good HC. The problem is his insistence on being a playcaller. He clearly is not an effective playcaller and the sooner he realizes that and "fires" himself as OC, the sooner he can try to reach his potential as a HC. It might be too little too late ... if this was any other team but the Bengals. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Clark W Griswold - 09-28-2021 That was smart of him to do and Hilton is in Taylor’s corner for sure. The big problem (if you want Zac gone)is that Burrow seems to really like Taylor. The franchise QB is the one player you have to try to keep happy so I think Zacs here as long as Burrow still loves him. Now if they fall apart and end the season with another crappy record then even Burrow would have to be OK with a new HC. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - WeezyBengal - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:20 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I didn't notice it during the game, but apparently Zac sent Mike Hilton out for the two victory formation kneel downs at the end of the game. I think ZT is a decent enough head coach...its his play calling, offensive schemes, and some of his game management that I have a problem with. As far as him "having" the locker room and how his players respond to him...I think he does a good job from what I can see. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Bengalitis - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:49 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Past issues aside, we THOROUGHLY outcoached Tomlin yesterday, for the 2nd straight time (and arguably the 3rd time out of 6; took a B.W. Webb slip on a slick field, to lose one of the games). More like players make the biggest difference. Harris looked like Dillon out there, just their team was injured, demoralized and untalented. 16 yrs of Tomlin must be feeling like 15 yrs of Marvin. lol Squeelers need to replace Ben ASAP, hopefully they dont get Newton for now. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - G man - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 12:36 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: That was smart of him to do and Hilton is in Taylor’s corner for sure. I’m not 100% sure I agree with this. The one thing we know is Joe Burrow wants to win. He’s a professional so I don’t think he will ever completely speak out against coaches or team mates. But you could tell how frustrated he was with play calling last week. I’m pretty sure he would prefer joe Brady in there RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - MileHighGrowler - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 12:36 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: That was smart of him to do and Hilton is in Taylor’s corner for sure. I don't and never have liked that take. Players should (and usually do) want to win more than they want to play for a specific person. That said, ZT is very liked by his players. I don't think that's ever been the question. As PhilHos and others have stated (and has been my opinion) is that the guy seems too caught up in his own ego to let someone else manage the offense and let him manage the team like a HC should. Which is the same reason I don't care if a HC brought in is an "offensive/defensive genius". I want a leader who brings in coordinators to be the geniuses at the table. Zac has the people skills to be a good HC. He just needs to get out of his own way when it comes to playcalling and putting himself in the weeds too deeply in any one area of the team. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Luvnit2 - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 02:19 PM)G man Wrote: I’m not 100% sure I agree with this. The one thing we know is Joe Burrow wants to win. He’s a professional so I don’t think he will ever completely speak out against coaches or team mates. But you could tell how frustrated he was with play calling last week. I judge a head coach's enthusiasm by his team by effort. Players play their ass off for coaches they respect and like. The one thing we have seen is ZT's teams play with effort. I saw a killa type of effort tackling and blocking yesterday. When was the last time both lines dominated the LOS against the Steeler's? Before you excuse with their injuries, keep in mind our injuries a year ago when we played them. Injuries go both ways I loved our effort, I love the DL manhandling their OL in the run game and pressuring Ben all day. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-28-2021 I didn't notice Hilton was in at RB on our victory formation. Pretty cool of Zac. Really like the Mike Hilton addition. Good damn player and he is a fun dude to boot. Like his personality. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - BengalsRocker - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 03:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I didn't notice Hilton was in at RB on our victory formation. Pretty cool of Zac. I had more than one Steeler fan tell me they were not happy when the Bengals signed Hilton. They knew what kind of player he was. Hopefully we don't make that mistake with Bates. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 12:22 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Like I've said, there's enough to show that ZT could become a good HC. The problem is his insistence on being a playcaller. He clearly is not an effective playcaller and the sooner he realizes that and "fires" himself as OC, the sooner he can try to reach his potential as a HC. It might be too little too late ... if this was any other team but the Bengals. Kind of reminds me of Dabo Swinney. But he needs solid coordinators to actually coach offense and defense while he takes on the overarching role. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:20 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I didn't notice it during the game, but apparently Zac sent Mike Hilton out for the two victory formation kneel downs at the end of the game. I mentioned something similar to this in my thread about coaching props....that somehow got stickied. ![]() Anywho....I feel like he might need to give up the playcalling and just focus on standard HC duties, and doing things like this for his guys. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - HarleyDog - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 01:33 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I think ZT is a decent enough head coach...its his play calling, offensive schemes, and some of his game management that I have a problem with. I think Burrow actually is helping him with play calling. ![]() RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 03:13 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I judge a head coach's enthusiasm by his team by effort. Players play their ass off for coaches they respect and like. The one thing we have seen is ZT's teams play with effort. Right....I mean Cam Hayward and Melvin Ingram ain't exactly schlubs. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - thompson19osu - 09-28-2021 (09-28-2021, 10:20 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I didn't notice it during the game, but apparently Zac sent Mike Hilton out for the two victory formation kneel downs at the end of the game. Bengals should take note of Hilton and his feelings toward the Steelers and be aware they are doing the same thing to Jessie Bates. Should have been extended already, and he is playing even better this year so his value just keeps going up. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Truck_1_0_1_ - 09-29-2021 (09-28-2021, 09:37 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Bengals should take note of Hilton and his feelings toward the Steelers and be aware they are doing the same thing to Jessie Bates. Should have been extended already, and he is playing even better this year so his value just keeps going up. 1. He's actually not playing better. 2. His value is a mystery. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Bengal Dude - 09-29-2021 Zac definitely has the support of the important players in the locker room. RE: Zac Taylor's Gesture to Mike Hilton - Sled21 - 09-29-2021 (09-28-2021, 09:37 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Bengals should take note of Hilton and his feelings toward the Steelers and be aware they are doing the same thing to Jessie Bates. Should have been extended already, and he is playing even better this year so his value just keeps going up. The Bengals are NOT doing the same thing to Bates. He is playing out his contract. They can tag him for 2 more years if need be, but they will get a new contract done with him. He's going to have to show this season he is worth the money he is asking for as the top safety in the league. Football players often bet on themselves. 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