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If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - WeezyBengal - 10-12-2021

This is spot on:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cincinnati-bengals-joe-burrow-offense-zac-taylor-2021


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - GreenCornBengal - 10-12-2021

Early in the article..

“ The Bengals' issue, as it seemingly has been every season of the Zac Taylor era, has been the offense.”

Nah, the defense was the issue the last two years.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - XenoMorph - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:43 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Early in the article..

“ The Bengals' issue, as it seemingly has been every season of the Zac Taylor era, has been the offense.”

Nah, the defense was the issue the last two years.

did you also watch the offense the last 2 years?   they were bad


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - Joelist - 10-12-2021

In other words, the design of the offense just like some of us have been saying.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - J24 - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:43 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Early in the article..

“ The Bengals' issue, as it seemingly has been every season of the Zac Taylor era, has been the offense.”

Nah, the defense was the issue the last two years.

Both units have been bad In the first two seasons under Taylor.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - J24 - 10-12-2021

The biggest problem with the offense is personal. We don't have a TE that can stretch the defense.and.were not particularly good in IOL department either.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - XenoMorph - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:54 AM)J24 Wrote: The biggest problem with the offense is personal. We don't have a TE that can stretch the defense.and.were not particularly good in IOL department either.

Missing the most important piece for an offense...  OC


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - northernbengal - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:54 AM)J24 Wrote: The biggest problem with the offense is personal. We don't have a TE that can stretch the defense.and.were not particularly good in IOL department either.

I disagree. It is pretty evident they aren't elevating the talent. In football unless you're Alabama and have a crazy class you're not gonna be able to have studs at every position. Coach in football is all about hiding your weaknesses and flexing your strengths. Having a better IOL would help but there are things they could do to to help them. Also the TE thing is silly. The Rams have been great passing down the field and do not have a great TE.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - GreenCornBengal - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:44 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: did you also watch the offense the last 2 years?   they were bad

They were bad, but to completely ignore the defense in the article doesn’t seem right. The offense did enough to win games a lot of the time in ZTs first few years but the defense was giving up 35+ a game…


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - jason - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 12:07 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: They were bad, but to completely ignore the defense in the article doesn’t seem right. The offense did enough to win games a lot of the time in ZTs first few years but the defense was giving up 35+ a game…

The defense has taken a step forward. The article is really about Zac Taylor's need to adapt.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - WeezyBengal - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:54 AM)J24 Wrote: The biggest problem with the offense is personal. We don't have a TE that can stretch the defense.and.were not particularly good in IOL department either.

And we have a head coach who isn't scheming around the "bad personnel." No misdirection, running empty sets, and continuing to show tendencies on play calling based on formations. 


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - WeezyBengal - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 12:07 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: They were bad, but to completely ignore the defense in the article doesn’t seem right. The offense did enough to win games a lot of the time in ZTs first few years but the defense was giving up 35+ a game…

Wins/losses aren't the point of the article. The point of the article is looking at offense efficiency and why we are having a hard time scoring the ball - especially with the amount of talent that we have. 


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - Frank Booth - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:54 AM)J24 Wrote: The biggest problem with the offense is personal

And this time, it’s personal.

But seriously, we have 3 studs at wr and Joe Mixon at RB, and you’re STILL complaining? The weapons are fine

The rams run their offense without a stud at TE. It’s not necessary. Anyone who starts clamoring for a first round TE should be taken to a day care.

The o-line still stinks


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - ochocincos - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:43 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Early in the article..

“ The Bengals' issue, as it seemingly has been every season of the Zac Taylor era, has been the offense.”

Nah, the defense was the issue the last two years.

Actually, the defense has been better than the offense for the most part, ranking wise.

2021:
offense - 18th in Points For, 25th in Yards
defense - 7th in Points Allowed, 11th in Yards Allowed

2020:
offense - 29th in both Points For and Yards
defense - 22nd in Points Allowed, 26th in Yards Allowed

2019:
offense - 30th in Points For, 26th in Yards
defense - 25th in Points Allowed, 29th in Yards Allowed


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - Synric - 10-12-2021

Against the Jaguars the Bengals ran an excellent wide zone scheme with a balanced attack and play action. That was the offense I expected this week but no the Bengals went shotgun and empty and was extremely pass heavy.

The Bengals had 3 rushing attempts in the first half.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - impactplaya - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 11:54 AM)J24 Wrote: The biggest problem with the offense is personal. We don't have a TE that can stretch the defense.and.were not particularly good in IOL department either.

C.J proved he can make plays, just watch the Jags game. But ZT totally looked over Uzomah in the Packers game. A TE stretch the.field, that would mean
ZT would have actually use a TE on seam or wheel routes. When has he ever done that?


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - grampahol - 10-12-2021

Taylor has become very predictable on most plays. They have the horses, but don't have the scheme for the horses.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - jj22 - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 12:39 PM)Synric Wrote: Against the Jaguars the Bengals ran an excellent wide zone scheme with a balanced attack and play action. That was the offense I expected this week but no the Bengals went shotgun and empty and was extremely pass heavy.

The Bengals had 3 rushing attempts in the first half.

I thought they learned this was the way to go after week 1, but they got away from it week 2. It saved the Jags game week 4, but they got away from it mostly week 5. They have the blueprint. 


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - ochocincos - 10-12-2021

I don't watch every game and do miss some snaps of some games I do watch, but I just don't see enough creativity from Taylor.
I think the Bengals have gotten bailed out from a few big passes to Chase, otherwise their passing offense would be really struggling again.


RE: If Zac Taylor doesn't evolve, Joe Burrow and the Bengals' 2021 season is already over - fredtoast - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 12:43 PM)impactplaya Wrote: But ZT totally looked over Uzomah in the Packers game. A TE stretch the.field, that would mean


I saw Uzo running routes against the Packers.

I am guessing that after the Jags game the Pack put more emphasis on covering him.  I don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt ZT just decided to phase Uzo out of the offense after his big game.