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Austin Allen TE - NUGDUKWE - 03-31-2022
TE is low on my list of needs and I view DT, CB and LB as bigger needs. Then throw in the fact that if Kenyon Green or Zion are sitting there at 31 they might be too good to pass up. So I think that pushes other needs like TE, S, DE and a 4th WR a little later in the draft.
I came across Austin and he's projected as a UDFA but he looks good enough to spend a 7th RD pick on to me. I also know that there seems to be safeties and wide receivers that could be available on day 3 that could develop into starters.
So I was curious what late RD safety, WR or TE's people would like to see the Bengals draft.
RE: Austin Allen TE - ochocincos - 03-31-2022
(03-31-2022, 10:52 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote:
TE is low on my list of needs and I view DT, CB and LB as bigger needs. Then throw in the fact that if Kenyon Green or Zion are sitting there at 31 they might be too good to pass up. So I think that pushes other needs like TE, S, DE and a 4th WR a little later in the draft.
I came across Austin and he's projected as a UDFA but he looks good enough to spend a 7th RD pick on to me. I also know that there seems to be safeties and wide receivers that could be available on day 3 that could develop into starters.
So I was curious what late RD safety, WR or TE's people would like to see the Bengals draft.
I could see Allen being a solid TE3 or maybe one day a TE2 on a team. I don't see him ever becoming a future starter though.
Too ploddy.
I think at one point in his college career, he was playing at a much lighter weight?
I've seen some game footage where he looks a lot thinner than 250-260 lbs where he's at now.
RE: Austin Allen TE - leonardfan40 - 04-01-2022
I like him late if we haven’t already addressed TE or if we are looking to double dip at the spot and maybe stash him on the PS for a year.
He’s a BIG dude, can make contested catches and not afraid to take a hit in traffic if the pass is coming his way. He will have trouble getting open at the next level though. I think he’s underrated/undervalued in the draft process (maybe nfl teams won’t agree with the undrafted ranking the analysts are giving- we will see) and could at least be developed into a good red zone specialist.
RE: Austin Allen TE - SunsetBengal - 04-01-2022
(03-31-2022, 10:52 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: TE is low on my list of needs and I view DT, CB and LB as bigger needs. Then throw in the fact that if Kenyon Green or Zion are sitting there at 31 they might be too good to pass up. So I think that pushes other needs like TE, S, DE and a 4th WR a little later in the draft.
I came across Austin and he's projected as a UDFA but he looks good enough to spend a 7th RD pick on to me. I also know that there seems to be safeties and wide receivers that could be available on day 3 that could develop into starters.
So I was curious what late RD safety, WR or TE's people would like to see the Bengals draft.
The need to draft players at those positions is higher than you think. Under the current defensive system, Safeties are a high priority, actually higher than having top shelf CBs. With the Bengals having a huge number invested in that position group, if they see a Safety that fits their skill set needs, I'd be prepared to see him drafted.
As far as WRs go? We have a genuine franchise QB, along with a set of stellar WRs. You'd better be prepared to see them all leave for huge money elsewhere at some point. The bench stock on WRs on this team is pretty low, so don't be surprised to see WR in the 2-4th rounds.
TE? That depends upon how much of a primary weapon they intend to make TE in the Bengals offense. As we have seen thus far, TE is often the 3rd, or even outlet option in most passing plays. They seem to be paying particular attention to the TE class in this year's scouting, so we'll see if there's fire where there's smoke. If they plan on diversifying the play calling to include TE as a 1st option, all bets are off on when they might select one.
RE: Austin Allen TE - bengalfan74 - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 07:22 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The need to draft players at those positions is higher than you think. Under the current defensive system, Safeties are a high priority, actually higher than having top shelf CBs. With the Bengals having a huge number invested in that position group, if they see a Safety that fits their skill set needs, I'd be prepared to see him drafted.
As far as WRs go? We have a genuine franchise QB, along with a set of stellar WRs. You'd better be prepared to see them all leave for huge money elsewhere at some point. The bench stock on WRs on this team is pretty low, so don't be surprised to see WR in the 2-4th rounds.
TE? That depends upon how much of a primary weapon they intend to make TE in the Bengals offense. As we have seen thus far, TE is often the 3rd, or even outlet option in most passing plays. They seem to be paying particular attention to the TE class in this year's scouting, so we'll see if there's fire where there's smoke. If they plan on diversifying the play calling to include TE as a 1st option, all bets are off on when they might select one.
Yep, We have the big 3 then it kinda falls off a cliff. I'd be surprised if we don't grab a WR in there.
As far as TE I'm not sure they'll view it as a big need ?
RE: Austin Allen TE - pulses - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 07:40 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Yep, We have the big 3 then it kinda falls off a cliff. I'd be surprised if we don't grab a WR in there.
As far as TE I'm not sure they'll view it as a big need ?
Don't be surprised if they draft a TE in the first 3 rounds. Hurst is on a 1 year deal and Sample is a FA next year as well.
RE: Austin Allen TE - bengalfan74 - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 07:49 PM)pulses Wrote: Don't be surprised if they draft a TE in the first 3 rounds. Hurst is on a 1 year deal and Sample is a FA next year as well.
Oh it wouldn't shock me. I'm just not to sure how they value the TE position since it's not a big part of our "O".
RE: Austin Allen TE - pulses - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 08:03 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh it wouldn't shock me. I'm just not to sure how they value the TE position since it's not a big part of our "O".
Well TBH our TE room has been nothing all that great for a few years now since Eifert was healthy. Uzo developed into a decent TE but he is gone. We signed Hurst and now this class has a few TE's that can help us now and in the future. And if we have to move on from Boyd/and or Mixon a TE will become more valuable in our offense IMO.
RE: Austin Allen TE - SunsetBengal - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 08:09 PM)pulses Wrote: Well TBH our TE room has been nothing all that great for a few years now since Eifert was healthy. Uzo developed into a decent TE but he is gone. We signed Hurst and now this class has a few TE's that can help us now and in the future. And if we have to move on from Boyd/and or Mixon a TE will become more valuable in our offense IMO.
He's more than decent, he's a tremendous athlete. Do not be surprised when he has one of those so-called "break out" years with the Jets this season. The Bengals just never utilized him to his potential, as they haven't featured a TE as a primary weapon in their offensive scheme. Hayden Hurst is also a talented player, but we will see how the Bengals intend to use the TE as a primary weapon, going forward.
RE: Austin Allen TE - NUGDUKWE - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 07:22 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The need to draft players at those positions is higher than you think. Under the current defensive system, Safeties are a high priority, actually higher than having top shelf CBs. With the Bengals having a huge number invested in that position group, if they see a Safety that fits their skill set needs, I'd be prepared to see him drafted.
As far as WRs go? We have a genuine franchise QB, along with a set of stellar WRs. You'd better be prepared to see them all leave for huge money elsewhere at some point. The bench stock on WRs on this team is pretty low, so don't be surprised to see WR in the 2-4th rounds.
TE? That depends upon how much of a primary weapon they intend to make TE in the Bengals offense. As we have seen thus far, TE is often the 3rd, or even outlet option in most passing plays. They seem to be paying particular attention to the TE class in this year's scouting, so we'll see if there's fire where there's smoke. If they plan on diversifying the play calling to include TE as a 1st option, all bets are off on when they might select one.
I was thinking safety might be a higher need than people realize. But with some of our other needs and the fact there seems to be several quality safeties that will be available on day 3 that could hopefully do some spot duty this year and then develop into a starter.
WR again I do think is a big need and if we trade back and add some picks I would be all for picking one in the 2-4 rds. But I still would rather other positions as it stands now.
TE is probably the position I would like the least at least early. There has been some signs they are interested in some of the higher rated TE's but I'm hoping that's more just due diligence than real interest. I just think we don't use the TE enough and the fact it usually takes TE's awhile to contribute. The superbowl window is open with Burrow but the defense is what got us there and we need to strike while we have the pieces in place. So to me that gives us a two to three year window and I would rather get pieces to help this year.
I'm really hoping RDS 1-5 are defense outside of Oline and maybe WR.
RE: Austin Allen TE - pulses - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 08:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He's more than decent, he's a tremendous athlete. Do not be surprised when he has one of those so-called "break out" years with the Jets this season. The Bengals just never utilized him to his potential, as they haven't featured a TE as a primary weapon in their offensive scheme. Hayden Hurst is also a talented player, but we will see how the Bengals intend to use the TE as a primary weapon, going forward.
The problem is they signed another TE who is just as good as him and they're gonna draft a WR in round 1 from what I've read. So he's gonna be another 3rd or 4th option there as well..
RE: Austin Allen TE - ochocincos - 04-02-2022
(04-01-2022, 08:03 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh it wouldn't shock me. I'm just not to sure how they value the TE position since it's not a big part of our "O".
If Taylor has shown us anything about a TE, he's more than happy to spend a 2nd rounder on a TE2 who is primarily just a blocker
