(05-05-2022, 04:53 PM)Joelist Wrote: Here is the current OL room:

Tackles: Williams, Collins, Prince

Guards: Cappa, Carman, Smith, Adeniji, Volson

Centers: Karras, Hill, Galliard

Of this bunch, you have to remember that four were drafted over the last two offseasons (Smith, Carman, Hill, Volson). So yes we don't have a lot of experienced depth - we took that calculated risk last offseason when we emptied out the OL room of players like MJ and Redmond. So these players need time and reps to get coached up so we can see what we have - the bad news is they are raw (especially Hill) - the good news is all of them flashed at times some pretty above average stuff last year.

Really the only player here I am not crazy about keeping is Adeniji - he singlehandedly gave up nearly half our postseason sacks. A Guard MUST be able to anchor and he shows no ability to do so.

Galliard I think heads back to the PS. I still think we add either Spain or another vet G/T so we have experienced people coming off the bench.

(05-05-2022, 05:27 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Frankly, let both Adeniji and Prince go and add one vet OL that can play both OG and OT.
Ereck Flowers or Spain are better at OG but can play OT in a pinch.

(05-05-2022, 07:18 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: This bunch is certainly in a better place than last year. Looking for another great run. Like to see Spain back.

(05-05-2022, 05:05 PM)OSUfan Wrote: From what the staff has stated D'Ante Smith may take reps at OG but he is being considered OT just as he should be. Also, by reports the Bengals have signed OG Ben Brown from Ole Miss whom many felt would be a draft selection.

(05-05-2022, 06:08 PM)AtomicBlaze Wrote: There is no guarantee that Carman will be healthy this season, did he have surgery to correct his back issues from last year that caused him to miss the Super Bowl?  Do we even know if he herniated his disc again, if so will he need additional surgery?  If he doesn't have surgery what is to prevent the herniated disc from acting up whenever he plays any amount of time.   For all of those that trust the team doctors, why did they clear him last season when he wasn't ready.

(05-05-2022, 05:27 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Frankly, let both Adeniji and Prince go and add one vet OL that can play both OG and OT.
Ereck Flowers or Spain are better at OG but can play OT in a pinch.

(05-05-2022, 07:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What is your point?  You don't think the Bengals are taking Carman's back into consideration?

I don't know if he needs surgery or not because I am not a doctor.

I do know that a back surgery is not a death sentence to an athlete's career.

And when did they clear him last year when he was not ready?  Carman played in all 20 games last year.

(05-05-2022, 07:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What is your point?  You don't think the Bengals are taking Carman's back into consideration?

I don't know if he needs surgery or not because I am not a doctor.

I do know that a back surgery is not a death sentence to an athlete's career.

And when did they clear him last year when he was not ready?  Carman played in all 20 games last year.

I have no doubt that his back surgery last year probably effected his ability to work out last off season.  And he probably was not 100% recovered in July when training camp started because the surgery had to be after Clemson's January playoff game.  So that gives me more hope that he will be improved quite a bit this year.  He will be fully recovered and have a full offseason to work out.  

(05-05-2022, 07:34 PM)pulses Wrote: Yep and they also said he was out in LA working out and they were happy with him taking it more seriously this year.

(05-05-2022, 08:40 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Coming in to his first training camp as a rookie he comes in over weight. Who does that?

(05-05-2022, 11:06 PM)ezekiel23 Wrote: I’ve known of quite a few people who have had back surgery over the years,and their backs just weren’t the same after that.

(05-06-2022, 12:26 AM)tms Wrote: It's crazy to me that we're not even talking about the Carman story. Literally one week ago it was front-page news. Now it's ancient history. That whole thing was pretty damn strange, as if there was an invisible hand trying to throw him under the bus.

Where there's smoke there's fire. And there's a helluva lot of smoke around him. Did he show up to voluntary workouts? I think he's done on this team and they're just trying to figure out how to announce it.

(05-06-2022, 12:01 AM)fredtoast Wrote: And Rob Gronkowski was a three time All-Pro after having back surgery.  So your limited anecdotal evidence is meaningless.