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Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - SunsetBengal - 08-01-2022 Interesting piece written by Connor Orr, of Sports Illustrated. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deshaun-watson-suspension-cements-roger-goodell-e2-80-99s-legacy/ar-AA10bEDJ Quote:The NFL commissioner has made his mark generating billions of dollars for owners and players, but he has failed when confronted with standing up for women. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - Whatever - 08-02-2022 There's no doubt Goodell has been good for business. At the same time, he will likely go down as the most hated commissioner in league history. It's crazy to think Vince McMahon was forced out of WWE a few weeks ago when he's the company founder and still the majority shareholder for screwing around with multiple women around the office, but Watson is only getting 6 games. When pro wrestling has the moral high ground over the most popular sport in America, there's fundamental problems. What's odd is that it doesn't even make sense to protect most of these players. Whether Watson plays or not really makes very little difference to the league's bottom line. It's not like he's a transcendent figure who has grown bigger than the sport, like Tiger Woods. The NFL has always been full of disposable heroes, and Watson clearly needs the NFL more than the NFL needs Watson. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - Vambo - 08-02-2022 Ruling on Deshaun Watson was Never Going to be Satisfying https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/unsatisfying-deshaun-watson-ruling The only guarantee with a resolution to Deshaun Watson's investigation by the NFL is it would be unsatisfying, dispiriting. Coming up with an adequate punishment for a series of charges with little proof was an impossible needle to thread, but the league was once again exposed for how ill equipped they are to deal with violence and mistreatment of women, despite countless opportunities to form a policy. Sports leagues are never going to be an effective substitute for the criminal justice system and even though they are operating based on the preponderance of evidence as opposed to innocent until proven guilty, it was a system fraught with problems before Watson getting to the NFL was a consideration... ...Vague guidelines allow the league to protect its owners while being able to punish players inconsistently and often more harshly. In this case, it came back to haunt them. The same rules that enabled them to avoid any meaningful punishment for New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, caught on camera soliciting prostitution in Florida, allowed Robinson to default to the same punishment for Watson as Ben Roethlisberger and Ezekiel Elliott despite 24 women accusing him of sexual assault and misconduct. The NFL has allowed Washington Commanders owner Daniel Snyder to operate almost with impunity despite accusations that have been piling up for a decade which includes sexual assault. Until the league is willing to put pen to paper on a real policy that outlines punishments for both players and owners, they will continue to get what they view as unsatisfying results in cases like Watson. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - bengalfan74 - 08-02-2022 (08-02-2022, 12:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: There's no doubt Goodell has been good for business. At the same time, he will likely go down as the most hated commissioner in league history. It's crazy to think Vince McMahon was forced out of WWE a few weeks ago when he's the company founder and still the majority shareholder for screwing around with multiple women around the office, but Watson is only getting 6 games. When pro wrestling has the moral high ground over the most popular sport in America, there's fundamental problems. If I was a woman my NFL fandom would be in serious jeopardy. Hell It's in jeopardy for me anyways. How can the lady, Robinson or whatever ? Use the phrase in her report "premeditated predator" and only give out 6 games ? As for Godell he's sunk his ship. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-05-2022 (08-02-2022, 12:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: There's no doubt Goodell has been good for business. At the same time, he will likely go down as the most hated commissioner in league history. It's crazy to think Vince McMahon was forced out of WWE a few weeks ago when he's the company founder and still the majority shareholder for screwing around with multiple women around the office, but Watson is only getting 6 games. When pro wrestling has the moral high ground over the most popular sport in America, there's fundamental problems. Pretty spot on about Godell and Watson honestly, nice post Whatever. (08-02-2022, 01:20 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: If I was a woman my NFL fandom would be in serious jeopardy. Hell It's in jeopardy for me anyways. Yes, this is pretty sickening. Doubt any feminists care though, they seem to only care about their agenda. Regular moral women care, we will see if they make a fuss over this. Also women that love football are usually great people. Could happen you never know. As for Godell sinking his own ship that is true but if him and the NFL overruled this judge's ruling and made it at least a year suspension I would feel much better about the entire situation. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - fredtoast - 08-07-2022 (08-02-2022, 12:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: It's crazy to think Vince McMahon was forced out of WWE a few weeks ago when he's the company founder and still the majority shareholder for screwing around with multiple women around the office, but Watson is only getting 6 games. When pro wrestling has the moral high ground over the most popular sport in America, there's fundamental problems. What is crazy is that you can't see the difference between an employer abusing his authority over people who work for him and a guy trying to get sex from a massage therapist. They are totally different situations. I also see people comparing Watson to Bauer, but Bauer was accused of violent physical assault. Everyone needs to step back off the ledge and understand that we give out lifetime bans for every guy who allegedly disrespects a female. There have to be different levels for different offenses. Watson did not use any force or any drugs to sexually assault these women. They only ones who saw him masturbate were the ones who chose to stay around and watch because they had the chance to leave whenever they wanted to. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - fredtoast - 08-07-2022 BTW anyone else getting tired of seeing the same people claim that players with lots of money and lawyers can avoid ever getting punished in the same stories where they talk about guys getting excessive bans from drugs or gambling. These writers are too stupid to see the contradiction. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - fredtoast - 08-07-2022 (08-02-2022, 01:20 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: If I was a woman my NFL fandom would be in serious jeopardy. Hell It's in jeopardy for me anyways. So you know that ALL women disagree with the ruling made by A WOMAN? The fact is that a woman judge who understands the law and the different levels of punishment for different levels of crime made a more reasonable decision than a knee-jerk "hang them all" scream from the cancel culture. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-07-2022 (08-07-2022, 11:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So you know that ALL women disagree with the ruling made by A WOMAN? Funny post Fred kinda playing all sides lol RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - Whatever - 08-12-2022 (08-07-2022, 11:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: What is crazy is that you can't see the difference between an employer abusing his authority over people who work for him and a guy trying to get sex from a massage therapist. They are totally different situations. Watson threatened several of the women with threats of using his status to ruin their careers. Nice try, Fred. RE: Opinion: Goodell's Legacy - fredtoast - 08-15-2022 (08-12-2022, 12:47 PM)Whatever Wrote: Watson threatened several of the women with threats of using his status to ruin their careers. Nice try, Fred. That is not a legitimate "threat". If a woman has sex with a man because he threatened to give he a bad review on Yelp then she is a prostitute instead of a victim of sexual assault. It is only an offense if he is her supervisor or employer. |