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Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - wcu - 09-07-2022

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3431861/the-narrative-about-a-cincinnati-bengals-regression-is-disrespectful-baffling-and-straight-up-wrong

**WARNING: Harsh language"*

So this, um, AFC championship team that had one clear weakness, the offensive line, went out and acquired four new starters out of five that will presumably be upgrades because, let's be honest, it feels impossible to imagine a worse-case scenario.

The Cincinnati Bengals. They who beat the mighty Chiefs not once (in the regular season), but twice! In the AFC title game. At Arrowhead.

Everyone is thinking Cincy is destined for a regression? You mean that team with a quarterback, Joe Burrow, who played behind one of the most atrocious pass-blocking lines in the NFL, and still found a way to lead the NFL in yards per pass attempt and completion percentage? Oh, and even though the football gods served up yet another shit sandwich for our man Joey B. in the form of an emergency appendectomy this offseason, at least he wasn't, you know, rehabbing from a torn ACL/MCL/"other structural damage" knee.

Joe Burrow is going to be as healthy as he's been since he entered the NFL. With much better protection. Oh, and guess what? All indications are he's going to have a far better rushing attack to complement him.

Did you know Bengals running backs were contacted in the backfield on FIFTY-TWO PERCENT of their carries last season? True ***** story.

Just think about that for a second. Before Joe Mixon or any other Bengals ball-carrier touched the ball in 2021 on any given run play, there was a better than 50-50 chance that they'd need to break a tackle or make someone miss just to avoid a negative play. In spite of that fact, Mixon ranked third in carries, third in rushing yards and fourth in rushing TDs. Cincinnati, however, still ranked 23rd in total rushing offense.

A mauler at right tackle in La'el Collins is but one of the Bengals' notable offseason additions in the trenches. The "got that DOG in him" meme is overused at this point. If there were a better way to describe Collins and new right guard Alex Cappa, I'd place that here. Suffice it to say, these dudes are nasty and get the **** after it.

As for ex-Patriot Ted Karras? On a team that just went to the actual whole-ass Super Bowl and retained many of its key core players, he's already established himself as a captain.

There are also some wide receivers you might've heard of. Ja'Marr Chase sat out an entire year of football, was still adjusting to the NFL game on the fly as a rookie, and had some drops issues that lingered beyond the alarming preseason he had where his rust was most evident. Chase ranked fourth in the NFL in receiving yards (1,455) and third in TD catches (13). Tee Higgins missed three games and still managed 1,091 yards on 74 receptions while playing most of the time through a shoulder injury that required offseason surgery. Higgins is extension eligible in 2023. Think he's driven at all to get that bag?

The narrative around the Bengals wouldn't be this lazy "regression" argument if they'd only won the Super Bowl. So many plays throughout a game can determine the outcome. Yes, Odell Beckham Jr.'s injury benefited Cincinnati. Officials missed an obvious penalty on Higgins' long TD on Jalen Ramsey to begin the second half. And so on.

My point is this: When all the chips were down, the Bengals called upon Burrow and Chase to deliver them the Lombardi Trophy. In the most specific detail I've seen it described in for The MMQB's Albert Breer, Burrow and Chase recently shared their thoughts on the Aaron Donald-interrupted, would-be connection that would've possibly been the greatest touchdown in NFL history:

Burrow, before the snap, had identified man coverage, and checked Chase to go over the top—in a Let’s end this now sort of way. He was never going to his left. His eyes were only there to pull safety Nick Scott out of the deep area to which Chase would run.

“We were going there the whole way,” Burrow said. “We got man and if we get man, I’m going to Ja’Marr. The safety [Scott] was off the hash, kind of helping on [Chase’s] side, so I knew I had to move him a little bit. And in the process of doing that, I didn’t have quite enough time to move the safety and get back to it.”

Sure enough, by the time Burrow had successfully moved Scott and pivoted to get to Chase who was running free past Ramsey, he had a faceful of Donald and that was that.

“He did check to me; he definitely checked to me,” Chase says. “I mean, at the end of the day, nobody really knows what would’ve happened. Nobody knows what would’ve happened, if it would’ve happened, I can’t dwell on that play.”

“I’m past it,” Burrow said. “Obviously, you would’ve liked to have that one, but we’re on to this year and making the most out of this year.”


If that play happens, suddenly people are hyperventilating to get their "DYNASTY" takes out which are obviously hyperbolic and misguided. Everyone seems to be sprinting in the opposite direction of any sustainable success for Cincinnati. For the life of me I can't understand why.

The "fluke" argument that folks make about the Bengals' run to the Super Bowl is based on the fact that they came out of nowhere, and actually shrinks one's credibility if used as a reason as to why they will regress. Even my most optimistic projections couldn't have imagined Cincinnati's run through the AFC. I'm sure I wasn't alone in thinking we were staring at something like 4-13 given the continued o-line neglect, how unproven the defense and Zac Taylor were and the uncertainty about Joey B's serious, serious knee injury.

Seldom do people talk about the flip side of a "fluke" AFC championship: What if it's only the beginning of something special? It's not like the Bengals were believed to have this gaping Super Bowl window and 2021 was their last-gasp hope at achieving such glory. Presuming they come up with the scratch for the massive second contracts for Burrow and Chase, they should have arguably the best QB-WR duo in the NFL for years to come, continuity on the offensive coaching staff thanks to Taylor calling the plays, and a defense that really came together in the playoffs.

If you don't love Cincy's D, realize that they played only one bad half in the entire postseason and were otherwise pretty much lights-out. They're deeper at defensive end this year, and first-round pick Dax Hill is a Swiss Army Knife in the secondary who's already generating significant buzz that he can make an instant impact.

Jessie Bates not reporting to training camp actually gave Dax Hill many quality reps. His skill set will allow defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo to get even more creative with his zone-heavy schemes on the back end. If the Bengals can be more balanced on offense, I would imagine Cincinnati's 2021 ranking of 20th in yards allowed per play will only drop.

Yada yada injury luck. Yada yada schedule strength. Yada yada "TARGET ON THEIR BACK NOW" takes. You think Joe Burrow gives a flying **** who puts a target on his back?

All I know is the Bengals have been thrust into five prime-time game slots, in all likelihood, wouldn't be in said slots if they were expected to be an embarrassment.

I know the Ravens are getting lots of guys back from injury. I know the Steelers haven't had a losing season under Mike Tomlin. I'm not saying the AFC North or the rest of the schedule is going to be easy. But to slapdash, haphazardly write the 2022 Cincinnati Bengals off seems like the paragon of pro football ignorance.

Since 2008, only three Super Bowl losers have failed to make the playoffs the following year. You wanna bet against Joe, Ja'Marr, Tee, Mixon, Tyler Boyd and this offense and an ascending defense? Be my guest. Go nuts.

Please **** my world up, Freezing Cold Takes and anyone I work with if I'm dead-wrong on this. But I've got the Bengals as the AFC's No. 1 seed based on this game-by-game breakdown.

vs. Steelers, Week 1: WIN
at Cowboys, Week 2: WIN
at Jets, Week 3: WIN/Vengeance
vs Dolphins, Week 4 (TNF): WIN. Short week vs. Tua and a new coach.
at Ravens, Week 5 (SNF): LOSS
at Saints, Week 6: WIN, Jameis and Dennis Allen? Come on.
vs Falcons, Week 7: WIN
at Browns, Week 8: WIN against Jacoby Brissett.
vs Panthers Week 9: LOSS. Big upset/pre-bye letdown!
Week 10: BYE
vs. Steelers Week 11: LOSS, everyone leaving the Bengals for dead in the loaded AFC!
at Titans, Week 12: WIN. Again.
vs. Chiefs, Week 13: LOSS, KC revenge
vs. Browns, Week 14: WIN. Deshaun Watson sucks.
at Bucs, Week 15: WIN. Even the GOAT can't stop this train in warmer weather.
at Patriots Week 16: WIN. Who's calling plays for the Pats? No one good!
vs. Bills, Week 17 (MNF): WIN. Buffalo's corners are in deep shit.
vs. Ravens, Week 18: WIN, possibly for the AFC North title
Record prediction: 13-4


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - casear2727 - 09-07-2022

This guy killed it, major props.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Go Cards - 09-07-2022

Great read and agree 100%, thanks for sharing


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Bengalitis - 09-07-2022

This is our first winning season follow-up with Taylor, I hope it is a good one. I am not a fan of 1-hit wonders.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - SHRacerX - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 09:57 AM)wcu Wrote: https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3431861/the-narrative-about-a-cincinnati-bengals-regression-is-disrespectful-baffling-and-straight-up-wrong

**WARNING: Harsh language"*

So this, um, AFC championship team that had one clear weakness, the offensive line, went out and acquired four new starters out of five that will presumably be upgrades because, let's be honest, it feels impossible to imagine a worse-case scenario.

The Cincinnati Bengals. They who beat the mighty Chiefs not once (in the regular season), but twice! In the AFC title game. At Arrowhead.

Everyone is thinking Cincy is destined for a regression? You mean that team with a quarterback, Joe Burrow, who played behind one of the most atrocious pass-blocking lines in the NFL, and still found a way to lead the NFL in yards per pass attempt and completion percentage? Oh, and even though the football gods served up yet another shit sandwich for our man Joey B. in the form of an emergency appendectomy this offseason, at least he wasn't, you know, rehabbing from a torn ACL/MCL/"other structural damage" knee.

Joe Burrow is going to be as healthy as he's been since he entered the NFL. With much better protection. Oh, and guess what? All indications are he's going to have a far better rushing attack to complement him.

Did you know Bengals running backs were contacted in the backfield on FIFTY-TWO PERCENT of their carries last season? True ***** story.

Just think about that for a second. Before Joe Mixon or any other Bengals ball-carrier touched the ball in 2021 on any given run play, there was a better than 50-50 chance that they'd need to break a tackle or make someone miss just to avoid a negative play. In spite of that fact, Mixon ranked third in carries, third in rushing yards and fourth in rushing TDs. Cincinnati, however, still ranked 23rd in total rushing offense.

A mauler at right tackle in La'el Collins is but one of the Bengals' notable offseason additions in the trenches. The "got that DOG in him" meme is overused at this point. If there were a better way to describe Collins and new right guard Alex Cappa, I'd place that here. Suffice it to say, these dudes are nasty and get the **** after it.

As for ex-Patriot Ted Karras? On a team that just went to the actual whole-ass Super Bowl and retained many of its key core players, he's already established himself as a captain.

There are also some wide receivers you might've heard of. Ja'Marr Chase sat out an entire year of football, was still adjusting to the NFL game on the fly as a rookie, and had some drops issues that lingered beyond the alarming preseason he had where his rust was most evident. Chase ranked fourth in the NFL in receiving yards (1,455) and third in TD catches (13). Tee Higgins missed three games and still managed 1,091 yards on 74 receptions while playing most of the time through a shoulder injury that required offseason surgery. Higgins is extension eligible in 2023. Think he's driven at all to get that bag?

The narrative around the Bengals wouldn't be this lazy "regression" argument if they'd only won the Super Bowl. So many plays throughout a game can determine the outcome. Yes, Odell Beckham Jr.'s injury benefited Cincinnati. Officials missed an obvious penalty on Higgins' long TD on Jalen Ramsey to begin the second half. And so on.

My point is this: When all the chips were down, the Bengals called upon Burrow and Chase to deliver them the Lombardi Trophy. In the most specific detail I've seen it described in for The MMQB's Albert Breer, Burrow and Chase recently shared their thoughts on the Aaron Donald-interrupted, would-be connection that would've possibly been the greatest touchdown in NFL history:

Burrow, before the snap, had identified man coverage, and checked Chase to go over the top—in a Let’s end this now sort of way. He was never going to his left. His eyes were only there to pull safety Nick Scott out of the deep area to which Chase would run.

“We were going there the whole way,” Burrow said. “We got man and if we get man, I’m going to Ja’Marr. The safety [Scott] was off the hash, kind of helping on [Chase’s] side, so I knew I had to move him a little bit. And in the process of doing that, I didn’t have quite enough time to move the safety and get back to it.”

Sure enough, by the time Burrow had successfully moved Scott and pivoted to get to Chase who was running free past Ramsey, he had a faceful of Donald and that was that.

“He did check to me; he definitely checked to me,” Chase says. “I mean, at the end of the day, nobody really knows what would’ve happened. Nobody knows what would’ve happened, if it would’ve happened, I can’t dwell on that play.”

“I’m past it,” Burrow said. “Obviously, you would’ve liked to have that one, but we’re on to this year and making the most out of this year.”


If that play happens, suddenly people are hyperventilating to get their "DYNASTY" takes out which are obviously hyperbolic and misguided. Everyone seems to be sprinting in the opposite direction of any sustainable success for Cincinnati. For the life of me I can't understand why.

The "fluke" argument that folks make about the Bengals' run to the Super Bowl is based on the fact that they came out of nowhere, and actually shrinks one's credibility if used as a reason as to why they will regress. Even my most optimistic projections couldn't have imagined Cincinnati's run through the AFC. I'm sure I wasn't alone in thinking we were staring at something like 4-13 given the continued o-line neglect, how unproven the defense and Zac Taylor were and the uncertainty about Joey B's serious, serious knee injury.

Seldom do people talk about the flip side of a "fluke" AFC championship: What if it's only the beginning of something special? It's not like the Bengals were believed to have this gaping Super Bowl window and 2021 was their last-gasp hope at achieving such glory. Presuming they come up with the scratch for the massive second contracts for Burrow and Chase, they should have arguably the best QB-WR duo in the NFL for years to come, continuity on the offensive coaching staff thanks to Taylor calling the plays, and a defense that really came together in the playoffs.

If you don't love Cincy's D, realize that they played only one bad half in the entire postseason and were otherwise pretty much lights-out. They're deeper at defensive end this year, and first-round pick Dax Hill is a Swiss Army Knife in the secondary who's already generating significant buzz that he can make an instant impact.

Jessie Bates not reporting to training camp actually gave Dax Hill many quality reps. His skill set will allow defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo to get even more creative with his zone-heavy schemes on the back end. If the Bengals can be more balanced on offense, I would imagine Cincinnati's 2021 ranking of 20th in yards allowed per play will only drop.

Yada yada injury luck. Yada yada schedule strength. Yada yada "TARGET ON THEIR BACK NOW" takes. You think Joe Burrow gives a flying **** who puts a target on his back?

All I know is the Bengals have been thrust into five prime-time game slots, in all likelihood, wouldn't be in said slots if they were expected to be an embarrassment.

I know the Ravens are getting lots of guys back from injury. I know the Steelers haven't had a losing season under Mike Tomlin. I'm not saying the AFC North or the rest of the schedule is going to be easy. But to slapdash, haphazardly write the 2022 Cincinnati Bengals off seems like the paragon of pro football ignorance.

Since 2008, only three Super Bowl losers have failed to make the playoffs the following year. You wanna bet against Joe, Ja'Marr, Tee, Mixon, Tyler Boyd and this offense and an ascending defense? Be my guest. Go nuts.

Please **** my world up, Freezing Cold Takes and anyone I work with if I'm dead-wrong on this. But I've got the Bengals as the AFC's No. 1 seed based on this game-by-game breakdown.

vs. Steelers, Week 1: WIN
at Cowboys, Week 2: WIN
at Jets, Week 3: WIN/Vengeance
vs Dolphins, Week 4 (TNF): WIN. Short week vs. Tua and a new coach.
at Ravens, Week 5 (SNF): LOSS
at Saints, Week 6: WIN, Jameis and Dennis Allen? Come on.
vs Falcons, Week 7: WIN
at Browns, Week 8: WIN against Jacoby Brissett.
vs Panthers Week 9: LOSS. Big upset/pre-bye letdown!
Week 10: BYE
vs. Steelers Week 11: LOSS, everyone leaving the Bengals for dead in the loaded AFC!
at Titans, Week 12: WIN. Again.
vs. Chiefs, Week 13: LOSS, KC revenge
vs. Browns, Week 14: WIN. Deshaun Watson sucks.
at Bucs, Week 15: WIN. Even the GOAT can't stop this train in warmer weather.
at Patriots Week 16: WIN. Who's calling plays for the Pats? No one good!
vs. Bills, Week 17 (MNF): WIN. Buffalo's corners are in deep shit.
vs. Ravens, Week 18: WIN, possibly for the AFC North title
Record prediction: 13-4

The great thing about all this positivity is that he doesn't even mention the likes of Ossai, Hurst, and Evans....all of whom could be major contributors this season.  It is funny, when you do the week-by-week win/loss prediction, a little piece of me when there is a loss (like the Panthers) says "no way", and then you realize they aren't going 17-0.  It is going to be a dogfight for certain, but I absolutely love the way this team and staff has been constructed.  


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - wcu - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 10:42 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: The great thing about all this positivity is that he doesn't even mention the likes of Ossai, Hurst, and Evans....all of whom could be major contributors this season.  It is funny, when you do the week-by-week win/loss prediction, a little piece of me when there is a loss (like the Panthers) says "no way", and then you realize they aren't going 17-0.  It is going to be a dogfight for certain, but I absolutely love the way this team and staff has been constructed.  

For sure.  They're going to drop some close ones.  They're going to lose some head scratchers, but they're also going to pull out some wins where people doubted them.  It's the same for (almost) every team, every year.  I look at this schedule as a whole and can't find less than 10 wins.  Certainly it is within the realm of possibility that the team "overachieves" again and is back in the conversation for the #1 seed in December/January.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - masonbengals fan - 09-07-2022

That was spot on.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - SHRacerX - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 10:56 AM)wcu Wrote: For sure.  They're going to drop some close ones.  They're going to lose some head scratchers, but they're also going to pull out some wins where people doubted them.  It's the same for (almost) every team, every year.  I look at this schedule as a whole and can't find less than 10 wins.  Certainly it is within the realm of possibility that the team "overachieves" again and is back in the conversation for the #1 seed in December/January.

Absolutely when it comes to the #1 overall seed in the AFC.  It is awesome to think about and envision, but when you think that Buffalo and the AFC East has to play the AFC North, you can see they will not have an easy path to the #1 seed even playing the Jets twice.

The AFC West SHOULD beat each other up enough that a 10 win team could win that division.  I think it will take 11 wins to get the #1 seed.  And with the AFC South playing the AFC West, I really doubt it is the Titans or Colts.  


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Hammerstripes - 09-07-2022

I get it when these media honks start talking about last year being a little bit of a fluke - it was. There's no way we should have gotten that far with the trash O-line that we had.

HOWEVER, that was last year. This team went out and filled every hole they had with a better player than what they had last year. On top of that, they have one of the most talented rosters in the league. A major step backwards is based on pure speculation and not on anything else.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Bengalfan4life27c - 09-07-2022

I feel his entire point almost identical. That's why The Bills Chargers love is so infuriating.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - bengalfan74 - 09-07-2022

He nailed it IMHO.

I get in a sense why the national media doesn't trust the Bengals. It's just a lot of bad to overcome, however.

This ain't your daddy's Bengals son. !!


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - 007BengalsFan - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 11:41 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: HOWEVER, that was last year.  This team went out and filled every hole they had with a better player than what they had last year...

As bad as Spain was in pass protection and as bad as he was dominated in the playoffs, I'm not sure Volson is an upgrade


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Sled21 - 09-07-2022

Good article that could have said the same thing without the profanity that the author obviously thinks makes him sound tough, but really just makes him look stupid.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - fredtoast - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 11:41 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I get it when these media honks start talking about last year being a little bit of a fluke - it was.  There's no way we should have gotten that far with the trash O-line that we had.



Careful.

Many people here don't think it is possible to acknowledge a fluke and still believe that the Bengals will be a good team this year.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - fredtoast - 09-07-2022

(09-07-2022, 09:57 AM)wcu Wrote: The "fluke" argument that folks make about the Bengals' run to the Super Bowl is based on the fact that they came out of nowhere, and actually shrinks one's credibility if used as a reason as to why they will regress.


I don't think it was as much about us "coming out of nowhere" as much as it was the difference between the team in the regular season and the playoffs.


Plus the fact that the last 4 wins that got the Bengals to the Super Bowl were decided on the last play of the game.

As for "credibility" of an position, the same people claiming the Bengals defense will be great because they forced a few more tunrovers in the playoffs are the same ones who said Joe Flacco would be ab All-Pro QB because he threw for 1100+ yards, 11 tds, and zero interception with a 117 passer rating in the '12 postseason.  If you ignore the regular season and just count a four-game hot streak that is when you will probably see your credibility suffer.


RE: Barstool Sports: The narrative about a Bengals regression is disrespectful... - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-07-2022

Wow, what a read. Best read I have had in a long damn time. Nailed it as the Casear said. Rock On

Exactly my prediction and there isn't one thing I can argue with in any way. Fantastic post, thanks WCU. Cool

Made my day reading that.

Great humor from someone who really knows football and obviously this team very well.