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PFF grades week 17 - J24 - 01-09-2023

https://twitter.com/PFF_Bengals/status/1612492860024098931?t=yHSgzlvDjiC39hCMGrLQ3A&s=19

RE: PFF grades week 17 - WeezyBengal - 01-09-2023

If Ossai can be an above average player for this team that is an unbelievably huge boost.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Sled21 - 01-09-2023

Big number for Carter....

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Nicomo Cosca - 01-09-2023

I figured Chase would be graded fairly high in this one. 8 catches for 86 yards and a TD. And he completely Moss’d that dude on his TD.

Obviously the defense was the story of the game, and the main reason we won, but the people saying we didn’t have a single player on offense that wasn’t awful were a little over the top.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Nicomo Cosca - 01-09-2023



RE: PFF grades week 17 - Nepa - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 07:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Hendrickson wasn't even mentioned among the top in the first post in this thread, which cited a twitter post from PFF Cin Bengals. That list starts with Bates. But the numbers are the same, so I guess it was an oversight on their part.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 01-09-2023

Great sign for Carter. Hendrickson only played 18 snaps but had a 2 sacks, including the strip sack for the TD.

If Ossai & Carter & Sample are trending towards productive, and it looks like they are, then DL is a much lower draft priority. I mean, Gunter couod be upgraded as the 5th DE. Or Tupou/Tufele as Reader's backuos, but those are depth pieces. And Tupou/Tufele have been decent.

Final PFF numbers:

Offensive Starters:
Burrow: 90.7
Mixon: 79.3
Chase: 83.3
Higgins: 77.1
Boyd: 71.1
Hurst: 65.0
J. Williams: 61.2 (12 sacks, T-1st in league)
Volson: 51.6
Karras: 62.6
Cappa: 67.6
Collins: 57.9 (5 sacks)

Offensive reserves (# of snaps)
Wilcox: 55.7 (498)
Perine: 71.7 (448)
Irwin: 68.0 (287)
Adeniji: 54.1 (220)
M. Thomas: 49.2 (including Baltimore, 198 here)
Asiasi: 45.6 (183)
Taylor: 53.7 (148)
Morgan Jr: 66.4 (77)
D. Sample: 52.3 (39)
T. Williams: 82.9 (36)
Scharping: 60.5 (30)
Evans: NR (18)
Allen: 74.9 (16)
Lassiter II: NR (8)
T. Hill: 57.0 (7)
Smith: 48.2 (6)
Carman: 60.7 (4)

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Frank Booth - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 07:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

I was watching Scharping with a close eye

he held his own for sure

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 01-09-2023

Defensive starters:
Hendrickson: 85.0
Reader: 87.3
BJ Hill: 65.8
Hubbard: 72.4
L. Wilson: 72.7
Pratt: 80.6
Awuzie: 69.9
Apple: 52.9
Hilton: 73.4
Bell: 66.3
Bates: 76.8

Defensive Reserves (# of snaps)
Taylor-Britt: 56.1 (591)
C. Sample: 58.0 (412)
Carter: 32.1 (396) (76.3 last game)
Ossai: 55.3 (334)
Tupou: 56.4 (272)
Davis-Gaither: 58.9 (227)
Flowers: 58.6 (171)
Tufele: 49.8 (138)
D. Hill: 58.1 (131, a lot of snaps at slot CB)
Bailey: 70.9 (58)
J. Davis: 60.4 (50)
D. Davis: 29.2 (38)
Gunter: 42.5 (37)
George: 60.4 (36)
M. Thomas: 58.6 (25)
Shelvin: 42.4 (24)
Bachie: 78.4 (13)
Johnston: 60.0 (1)

RE: PFF grades week 17 - basballguy - 01-09-2023

CTB finishing hire than Apple pleases me

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Wyche'sWarrior - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 06:32 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: If Ossai can be an above average player for this team that is an unbelievably huge boost.


Absolutely. And Carter had a nice game too.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - EatonFan - 01-09-2023

I'll take that 65.8 from Sharping.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - casear2727 - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 09:12 PM)EatonFan Wrote: I'll take that 65.8 from Sharping.



Sharping only played 14 snaps but he had a 76.1 pass blocking grade (63.1 run block).

Small sample size but optimistic. 

RE: PFF grades week 17 - casear2727 - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 07:57 PM)Nepa Wrote: Hendrickson wasn't even mentioned among the top in the first post in this thread, which cited a twitter post from PFF Cin Bengals. That list starts with Bates. But the numbers are the same, so I guess it was an oversight on their part.

Not surprised, officials overlook him on every play as well unless he hits the QB....

RE: PFF grades week 17 - WVUHomer - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 08:30 PM)basballguy Wrote: CTB finishing hire than Apple pleases me

At this point in the year, he should be registered with starters with Chido (through no fault of his own of course) in the reserves. Promising to see him start to elevate to that 60 range for sure. Was think we HAD to go DB in round 1 but now I'm not sure. Especially if we bring Apple back for a depth piece.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Frank Booth - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 09:36 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: At this point in the year, he should be registered with starters with Chido (through no fault of his own of course) in the reserves. Promising to see him start to elevate to that 60 range for sure. Was think we HAD to go DB in round 1 but now I'm not sure. Especially if we bring Apple back for a depth piece.

why do you assume apple will be depth? Why do we not want the best player starting when it comes to eli apple?

if he is better than ctb next year,(assuming he gets re-signed) then by all means keep eli at the 2, and ctb the 3rd

there is no shame in not being as good as bengal era eli apple. Especially in ctb's rookie and sophomore years

RE: PFF grades week 17 - WVUHomer - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 09:40 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: why do you assume apple will be depth? Why do we not want the best player starting when it comes to eli apple?

if he is better than ctb next year,(assuming he gets re-signed) then by all means keep eli at the 2, and ctb the 3rd

there is no shame in not being as good as bengal era eli apple. Especially in ctb's rookie and sophomore years

The logic behind it is, unless Apple is head and shoulders better (it's possible), you go with youth. 

CTB is going to be a starter going forward in the near future, if for no other reason than, he will be cost efficient. so he needs all the experience he can absorb.

RE: PFF grades week 17 - casear2727 - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 09:36 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: At this point in the year, he should be registered with starters with Chido (through no fault of his own of course) in the reserves. Promising to see him start to elevate to that 60 range for sure. Was think we HAD to go DB in round 1 but now I'm not sure. Especially if we bring Apple back for a depth piece.

(01-09-2023, 09:40 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: why do you assume apple will be depth? Why do we not want the best player starting when it comes to eli apple?

if he is better than ctb next year,(assuming he gets re-signed) then by all means keep eli at the 2, and ctb the 3rd

there is no shame in not being as good as bengal era eli apple. Especially in ctb's rookie and sophomore years


Do we have an expected return date for Chido?  We have no idea how long he will take to return to form.  Also next season is his contract year.  
I can see a high draft pick at CB... 

RE: PFF grades week 17 - Frank Booth - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 09:51 PM)WVUHomer Wrote: The logic behind it is, unless Apple is head and shoulders better (it's possible), you go with youth. 

CTB is going to be a starter going forward in the near future, if for no other reason than, he will be cost efficient. so he needs all the experience he can absorb.

yea but cornerback is a position where the 3rd and 4th string are seeing a good amount of snaps

RE: PFF grades week 17 - lostpoet2 - 01-09-2023

(01-09-2023, 08:24 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Defensive starters:
Hendrickson: 85.0
Reader: 87.3
BJ Hill: 65.8
Hubbard: 72.4
L. Wilson: 72.7
Pratt: 80.6
Awuzie: 69.9
Apple: 52.9
Hilton: 73.4
Bell: 66.3
Bates: 76.8

Defensive Reserves (# of snaps)
Taylor-Britt: 56.1 (591)
C. Sample: 58.0  (412)
Carter: 32.1 (396) (76.3 last game)
Ossai: 55.3 (334)
Tupou: 56.4 (272)
Davis-Gaither: 58.9 (227)
Flowers: 58.6 (171)
Tufele: 49.8 (138)
D. Hill: 58.1 (131, a lot of snaps at slot CB)
Bailey: 70.9 (58)
J. Davis: 60.4 (50)
D. Davis: 29.2  (38)
Gunter: 42.5 (37)
George: 60.4 (36)
M. Thomas: 58.6 (25)
Shelvin: 42.4 (24)
Bachie: 78.4 (13)
Johnston: 60.0  (1)

These grades are from a different game.