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Coaching changes - jj22 - 01-31-2023
There’s a likelihood we are going to lose at least 1 coach to a promotion. And on offense I’d be willing to lose one to bring in a fresh set of eyes and ideas. The foundation is in place so they could weather the storm. So with the likelihood Lou will stay put. That opens up some conjecture on who is out there worth bringing in.
Who are some of the names left out there worthy of bringing in as replacements for OC (which will likely be Pitcher promoted into the position) opening up QBC. Who could come in this late to coach QB’s. And what About Wideouts. Should we look to college coaches for fresh innovations or experienced out of work coaches like Hue and Haley. Side note. I thought Haley was a top coordinator. Haley had good offenses. He had Baker looking good the last we herd of him.
RE: Coaching changes - The American Dream - 01-31-2023
If Callahan does go, I think Brian Johnson could be a shrewd move for OC. Doubt he would take another position as qb coach to qb coach but would be quite a get in that area also, worked wonders with Hurts in Philly.
RE: Coaching changes - Nicomo Cosca - 01-31-2023
If Pitcher gets promoted to OC give me Joe Brady for QB coach. Maybe tack on some extra title so Buffalo can’t block it as a lateral move (is that a thing for position coaches or just coordinators?).
RE: Coaching changes - jj22 - 01-31-2023
I think it’s a thing for position coaches too. Greg Roman as OC. Just to fix the run game. We have the offensive minds in Burrow and Zac who know pass concepts better than Baltimore coaches abling them to mesh the run game with the pass game.
Does his run concepts only work with a running qb? And he wouldn’t be a fit for QBC and WRC.
RE: Coaching changes - jj22 - 02-01-2023
Bieniemy doesn’t have a contract.
RE: Coaching changes - pally - 02-01-2023
(01-31-2023, 11:47 PM)jj22 Wrote: There’s a likelihood we are going to lose at least 1 coach to a promotion. And on offense I’d be willing to lose one to bring in a fresh set of eyes and ideas. The foundation is in place so they could weather the storm. So with the likelihood Lou will stay put. That opens up some conjecture on who is out there worth bringing in.
Who are some of the names left out there worthy of bringing in as replacements for OC (which will likely be Pitcher promoted into the position) opening up QBC. Who could come in this late to coach QB’s. And what About Wideouts. Should we look to college coaches for fresh innovations or experienced out of work coaches like Hue and Haley. Side note. I thought Haley was a top coordinator. Haley had good offenses. He had Baker looking good the last we herd of him.
Troy Walters is an excellent WR coach. He'll be a top candidate for promotion to OC in the near future. There is absolutely no reason to look to replace him at this point
Dan Pitcher, who is already intimately involved in the offensive planning is the heir apparent for OC even though the team will obviously have to open up the search.
QB coach is the open position if Callahan moves on. A top college guy could be a logical choice I would say this is one position that Joe Burrow would get a say in. I can't see the Bills letting Joe Brady go on a lateral move. Knowing, now what we do about Zac, he already has some idea of a succession plan.
I think the defensive side is far more of a mystery. Who would succeed Lou?
RE: Coaching changes - Nicomo Cosca - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 12:41 AM)pally Wrote: I think the defensive side is far more of a mystery. Who would succeed Lou?
Not sure if will be Duffner or not, but if they do decide to go with an outside hire one thing is for sure - it’s going to be a hell of a lot easier to attract good coaches this time around, as opposed to when Zac was first trying to fill that position.
RE: Coaching changes - Soonerpeace - 02-01-2023
(01-31-2023, 11:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If Pitcher gets promoted to OC give me Joe Brady for QB coach. Maybe tack on some extra title so Buffalo can’t block it as a lateral move (is that a thing for position coaches or just coordinators?).
Joe Brady won’t come on a lateral move and neither would they release him.
RE: Coaching changes - pally - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 01:06 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not sure if will be Duffner or not, but if they do decide to go with an outside hire one thing is for sure - it’s going to be a hell of a lot easier to attract good coaches this time around, as opposed to when Zac was first trying to fill that position.
Duffner would be my first choice as an internal candidate but of course Zac isn't asking me
RE: Coaching changes - Bengal Dude - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 01:06 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not sure if will be Duffner or not, but if they do decide to go with an outside hire one thing is for sure - it’s going to be a hell of a lot easier to attract good coaches this time around, as opposed to when Zac was first trying to fill that position.
I think James Bettcher will get a strong look as long as Lou doesn't take him.
An unlikely outside hire I've wondered about is Al Golden. He helped Lou design 3rd down defensive schemes. He was also popular among the FO. I'm wondering if they'd try get him back from Notre Dame.
RE: Coaching changes - Nicomo Cosca - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 01:07 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Joe Brady won’t come on a lateral move and neither would they release him.
I don’t know about that. Reuniting with Burrow and Chase would be awful tempting. But it’s a moot point if Buffalo can block it.
RE: Coaching changes - TecmoBengals - 02-01-2023
(01-31-2023, 11:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If Pitcher gets promoted to OC give me Joe Brady for QB coach. Maybe tack on some extra title so Buffalo can’t block it as a lateral move (is that a thing for position coaches or just coordinators?).
and if Callahan and Pitcher both land jobs elsewhere, then go after Brady for OC?
I suppose if Pitcher gets a job before Callahan, then Callahan lands a head coaching job, then that's the scenario for Zac needing an external replacement.
RE: Coaching changes - jj22 - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 12:41 AM)pally Wrote: Troy Walters is an excellent WR coach. He'll be a top candidate for promotion to OC in the near future. There is absolutely no reason to look to replace him at this point
He's good friends with Ryan and has a legit shot at the Texas OC gig.
RE: Coaching changes - Soonerpeace - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 01:43 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I don’t know about that. Reuniting with Burrow and Chase would be awful tempting. But it’s a moot point if Buffalo can block it.
Beane the Bills GM if you saw his hard on for the Bengals no way allows it. So it’s about as likely as Greg Norman replacing Jay Monahan as PGA commissioner.
RE: Coaching changes - Soonerpeace - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 01:26 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I think James Bettcher will get a strong look as long as Lou doesn't take him.
An unlikely outside hire I've wondered about is Al Golden. He helped Lou design 3rd down defensive schemes. He was also popular among the FO. I'm wondering if they'd try get him back from Notre Dame.
No they were glad he left as Lou and Bettcher are tight and Golden wasn’t a fit.
RE: Coaching changes - Sled21 - 02-01-2023
If we are just going to replace the QB coach, heck, hire Jordan Palmer. He works with Joe anyway.
RE: Coaching changes - XenoMorph - 02-01-2023
What about Jay Gruden? for OC
RE: Coaching changes - Nicomo Cosca - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 10:03 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: and if Callahan and Pitcher both land jobs elsewhere, then go after Brady for OC?
I suppose if Pitcher gets a job before Callahan, then Callahan lands a head coaching job, then that's the scenario for Zac needing an external replacement.
The Bengals already extended Pitcher when the Ravens came sniffing around.
(02-01-2023, 10:46 AM)Sled21 Wrote: If we are just going to replace the QB coach, heck, hire Jordan Palmer. He works with Joe anyway.
Similar situation to big Willie, he’s got a great gig doing his own thing. Doubt he’d be interested.
RE: Coaching changes - Cat-Man - 02-01-2023
Reich to Panthers. Payton to Broncos. Ryans to Texans. That leaves Colts and Cardinals. I like this quote from SI.com:
Quote:It’s wild that the Bengals are in position to bring their entire staff back.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/30/nfl-coaching-carousel-jim-harbaugh-demeco-ryans-broncos
RE: Coaching changes - WeezyBengal - 02-01-2023
Its pretty much a gaurantee at this point that Pitcher will become the OC.