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Moving on from Brandon Allen? - pally - 04-03-2023
The team elevated Jake Browing the last 3 games and in the playoffs just so he could get a game day check. We're into draft planning mode now and the team has yet to re-sign Brandon Allen. As much as he is a great locker room guy, hard worker, all around nice person, etc, it was plainly obvious that being an effective back-up QB was frankly beyond his skill level.
Reporting had it that the team pursued Cooper Rush before he re-signed with Dallas
Jake showed some potential during pre-season outings but I don't know if he showed enough even though I think he is better than Brandon. Maybe with 3 years under his belt Joe doesn't need that veteran presence anymore
I have a feeling one of our 7 draft picks will be a QB
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Gary Milne - 04-03-2023
(04-03-2023, 07:27 PM)pally Wrote: The team elevated Jake Browing the last 3 games and in the playoffs just so he could get a game day check. We're into draft planning mode now and the team has yet to re-sign Brandon Allen. As much as he is a great locker room guy, hard worker, all around nice person, etc, it was plainly obvious that being an effective back-up QB was frankly beyond his skill level.
Reporting had it that the team pursued Cooper Rush before he re-signed with Dallas
Jake showed some potential during pre-season outings but I don't know if he showed enough even though I think he is better than Brandon. Maybe with 3 years under his belt Joe doesn't need that veteran presence anymore
I have a feeling one of our 7 draft picks will be a QB
Since they pursued Rush, I wonder if there's any interest in Bridgewater.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Soonerpeace - 04-03-2023
(04-03-2023, 07:27 PM)pally Wrote: The team elevated Jake Browing the last 3 games and in the playoffs just so he could get a game day check. We're into draft planning mode now and the team has yet to re-sign Brandon Allen. As much as he is a great locker room guy, hard worker, all around nice person, etc, it was plainly obvious that being an effective back-up QB was frankly beyond his skill level.
Reporting had it that the team pursued Cooper Rush before he re-signed with Dallas
Jake showed some potential during pre-season outings but I don't know if he showed enough even though I think he is better than Brandon. Maybe with 3 years under his belt Joe doesn't need that veteran presence anymore
I have a feeling one of our 7 draft picks will be a QB
I like Browning better than Allen
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 04-03-2023
I hope so. However, I think we will refrain from signing anyone to any significant deal (multiple years for $2+ mil per) until after the Burrow extension is done.
Basham/Irv Smith/Sidney Jones/Ford/Scharping type deals are fine and can go forward, but a real/proven QB2 might be more expensive (Bridgewater). Might want to see how much riom we have left.
I have a feeling we are gonna load up this year & try to get home field. Eff going to Arrowhead. If Burrow tweaks something, we want a reasonable chance to win.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Go Cards - 04-03-2023
Browning outplayed Allen by a mile in preseason imho.
Not saying he is great but it was odd that he lost the battle.
Seems like the OP said at the time that Burrow preferred Allens input on the sideline. Then pointed out that if Burrow was hurt that the option was still available for Browning to leap frog him from practice squad to starter. Which made me feel a little better about him losing a battle that was obvious he should have won imo.
Glad Bengals are searching to upgrade
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 04-03-2023
Matt McDonald, BGSU:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-mcdonald-1.html
(04-03-2023, 10:58 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Browning outplayed Allen by a mile in preseason imho.
Not saying he is great but it was odd that he lost the battle.
Seems like the OP said at the time that Burrow preferred Allens input on the sideline. Then pointed out that if Burrow was hurt that the option was still available for Browning to leap frog him from practice squad to starter. Which made me feel a little better about him losing a battle that was obvious he should have won imo.
Glad Bengals are searching to upgrade
Browning played evenly or WORSE against WORSE competition than Allen.
People just want change for the sake of change.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - rfaulk34 - 04-03-2023
(04-03-2023, 07:27 PM)pally Wrote: The team elevated Jake Browing the last 3 games and in the playoffs just so he could get a game day check. We're into draft planning mode now and the team has yet to re-sign Brandon Allen. As much as he is a great locker room guy, hard worker, all around nice person, etc, it was plainly obvious that being an effective back-up QB was frankly beyond his skill level.
Reporting had it that the team pursued Cooper Rush before he re-signed with Dallas
Jake showed some potential during pre-season outings but I don't know if he showed enough even though I think he is better than Brandon. Maybe with 3 years under his belt Joe doesn't need that veteran presence anymore
I have a feeling one of our 7 draft picks will be a QB
He doesn't need the veteran presence but a veteran, that fits this system, would benefit the team should he need to play a game or 4. Going after Rush was a good move, but they shouldn't stop there and settle for a rookie draft pick.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - TheLeonardLeap - 04-04-2023
(04-03-2023, 07:32 PM)Gary Milne Wrote: Since they pursued Rush, I wonder if there's any interest in Bridgewater.
3 documented concussions in the last 2 seasons.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - BengalsBong - 04-04-2023
Browning plays more like Joe then Allen does. Browning has good mobility and can throw on the run well. Allen is a pocket passer with limited mobility.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - NATI BENGALS - 04-04-2023
Browning as the #3 in camp behind a rookie draft pick I hope. It would be ideal to lock in a competent backup cheap for 4 years. Just don't Ryan Finley the shit.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Tomcat - 04-04-2023
Aidan O'connell in rd6 for me!
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - kalibengal - 04-04-2023
(04-03-2023, 07:27 PM)pally Wrote: The team elevated Jake Browing the last 3 games and in the playoffs just so he could get a game day check. We're into draft planning mode now and the team has yet to re-sign Brandon Allen. As much as he is a great locker room guy, hard worker, all around nice person, etc, it was plainly obvious that being an effective back-up QB was frankly beyond his skill level.
Reporting had it that the team pursued Cooper Rush before he re-signed with Dallas
Jake showed some potential during pre-season outings but I don't know if he showed enough even though I think he is better than Brandon. Maybe with 3 years under his belt Joe doesn't need that veteran presence anymore
I have a feeling one of our 7 draft picks will be a QB
I think they saw how important the backup is when Henne took care of business for KC VS Jax in playoffs. Id love to see an upgrade here
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - ochocincos - 04-04-2023
Put me in the camp of not wanting a draft pick to be the backup, but if the Bengals do draft someone, I want it to be on Day 3.
A guy I've liked on Day 3 is Houston QB Clayton Tune.
He's accurate but he lacks a cannon. He does have mobility. Very athletic, confirmed not only by tape but also his Combine performance.
His size is pretty comparable to Burrow as well.
Tune - 6'2.5", 220 lb
Burrow - 6'3.5", 221 lb
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-04-2023
(04-03-2023, 11:18 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Matt McDonald, BGSU:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-mcdonald-1.html
Browning played evenly or WORSE against WORSE competition than Allen.
People just want change for the sake of change.
Thanks for that on McDonald.
Agree that Browning played against worse competition, but I don't think he played worse than Allen, Truck.
I like how Browning uses the pocket and he is not a statue like Allen is. Allen runs into a lot of Sacks.
Browning is also much more of a runner and his game is much more like Burrow in this aspect.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 04-04-2023
(04-04-2023, 02:05 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thanks for that on McDonald.
Agree that Browning played against worse competition, but I don't think he played worse than Allen, Truck.
I like how Browning uses the pocket and he is not a statue like Allen is. Allen runs into a lot of Sacks.
Browning is also much more of a runner and his game is much more like Burrow in this aspect.
Jake Browning QB CIN 42/64 65.6 452 7.06 36 1 0 91.4
Brandon Allen QB CIN 28/38 73.7 264 6.94 38 0 0 92.4
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/player/passing/afc/preseason/all/
As I said, the same or worse.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-04-2023
(04-04-2023, 04:41 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Jake Browning QB CIN 42/64 65.6 452 7.06 36 1 0 91.4
Brandon Allen QB CIN 28/38 73.7 264 6.94 38 0 0 92.4
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/player/passing/afc/preseason/all/
As I said, the same or worse.
Thanks for the numbers, I just see a better QB when watching the two play. We will see if the coaches agree this year.
We also know that Burrow has a say in who his backup is as well.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - pulses - 04-04-2023
(04-04-2023, 11:56 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Put me in the camp of not wanting a draft pick to be the backup, but if the Bengals do draft someone, I want it to be on Day 3.
A guy I've liked on Day 3 is Houston QB Clayton Tune.
He's accurate but he lacks a cannon. He does have mobility. Very athletic, confirmed not only by tape but also his Combine performance.
His size is pretty comparable to Burrow as well.
Tune - 6'2.5", 220 lb
Burrow - 6'3.5", 221 lb
I've been on board for Tune in the later rounds for a while now.
RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - Emeritus - 04-04-2023
(04-04-2023, 09:13 PM)pulses Wrote: I've been on board for Tune in the later rounds for a while now.
Really man...Really Pulses.. Ok
Moving on from Brandon Allen? - BenZoo2 - 04-04-2023
Apparently they visiting with Trevor siemian tomorrow
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RE: Moving on from Brandon Allen? - pulses - 04-05-2023
(04-04-2023, 09:44 PM)Emeritus Wrote:
Really man...Really Pulses.. Ok
Yes REALLY! I even mentioned him in another thread a while back as well.