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Jonah Trade Mock - Rotobeast - 04-11-2023
So, I traded Jonah to the Lions to increase the draft position in several rounds.
Results were fairly decent, although I'm so-so with Bergeron competing for RT.
To be fair though there was only one tackle available above Bergeron in the 2nd.
PFN:
18. Bijan Robinson-RB Texas
74. Sam LaPorta-TE Iowa
92. Matthew Bergeron-OT Syracuse
98. Kyu Blu Kelly-CB Stanford
131. Luke Schoonmaker-TE Michigan
140. Isaiah Land-EDGE Florida A&M
152. Moro Ojomo-DT Texas
194. Deuce Vaughn-RB Kansas State
246. Jalen Redmond-DT Oklahoma
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - ochocincos - 04-11-2023
(04-11-2023, 04:31 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: So, I traded Jonah to the Lions to increase the draft position in several rounds.
Results were fairly decent, although I'm so-so with Bergeron competing for RT.
To be fair though there was only one tackle available above Bergeron in the 2nd.
PFN:
18. Bijan Robinson-RB Texas
74. Sam LaPorta-TE Iowa
92. Matthew Bergeron-OT Syracuse
98. Kyu Blu Kelly-CB Stanford
131. Luke Schoonmaker-TE Michigan
140. Isaiah Land-EDGE Florida A&M
152. Moro Ojomo-DT Texas
194. Deuce Vaughn-RB Kansas State
246. Jalen Redmond-DT Oklahoma
Robinson, LaPorta, Bergeron, and Schoonmaker? I would be happy with that draft regardless of the other picks.
I will be curious to see what potential compensation the Bengals could get for Jonah on/before draft day if it happens.
What made you trade with the Lions? Why would they want a 1-year rental in Jonah when they have Sewell and Taylor Decker?
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Rotobeast - 04-11-2023
(04-11-2023, 01:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Robinson, LaPorta, Bergeron, and Schoonmaker? I would be happy with that draft regardless of the other picks.Really, it was just on a whim, considering they had so many picks. I don't see why they'd actually do it.
I will be curious to see what potential compensation the Bengals could get for Jonah on/before draft day if it happens.
What made you trade with the Lions? Why would they want a 1-year rental in Jonah when they have Sewell and Taylor Decker?
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RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-11-2023
(04-11-2023, 04:31 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: So, I traded Jonah to the Lions to increase the draft position in several rounds.
Results were fairly decent, although I'm so-so with Bergeron competing for RT.
To be fair though there was only one tackle available above Bergeron in the 2nd.
PFN:
18. Bijan Robinson-RB Texas
74. Sam LaPorta-TE Iowa
92. Matthew Bergeron-OT Syracuse
98. Kyu Blu Kelly-CB Stanford
131. Luke Schoonmaker-TE Michigan
140. Isaiah Land-EDGE Florida A&M
152. Moro Ojomo-DT Texas
194. Deuce Vaughn-RB Kansas State
246. Jalen Redmond-DT Oklahoma
Hey, love the Draft big time. All the players are guys I already liked. Just doubt it is the Lions we trade Jonah to.
Bijan, Laporta, Bergeron, Schoonmaker and Deuce? Damn our Offense would be stacked! I like Ojomo from what I saw of him last
year, big dude. Haven't seen Land or Redmond play? But nice Mock Rotobeast.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - pulses - 04-12-2023
(04-11-2023, 10:16 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hey, love the Draft big time. All the players are guys I already liked. Just doubt it is the Lions we trade Jonah to.
Bijan, Laporta, Bergeron, Schoonmaker and Deuce? Damn our Offense would be stacked! I like Ojomo from what I saw of him last
year, big dude. Haven't seen Land or Redmond play? But nice Mock Rotobeast.
Goodberry is high on Redmond .
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - ochocincos - 04-12-2023
(04-12-2023, 12:28 AM)pulses Wrote: Goodberry is high on Redmond .
I can see a team pouncing on Redmond well before the 7th round, if anything for his athleticism alone.
He's kind of a tweener right now, and he never quite lived up to his potential in college.
At the Combine, he weighed 291, but he was categorized as a DE and thus being compared with other edge guys to calculate RAS.
But he ran a 4.81 and put up a 7.30 cone, which is pretty good for a 290+ lb guy.
For comparison, Geno Atkins was about the same size (293 lb).
He ran a 4.85 and put up a 7.33 cone, which are both near the top when comparing to DTs.
Redmond's vert and broad were also similar to Geno's.
I could honestly see Redmond being selected in Rd 4 or Rd 5, and he could be turned into a Geno-lite.
EDIT - When converting Redmond's RAS to DT instead of DE, he rates a 9.72, which is damn near perfect.
Top-tier in every athletic drill, the only knocks when compared to DTs are height and weight.
But as we've seen with more and more DTs the past couple decades, sub-300 lb guys can still be effective.
And just like Atkins did once he got to the NFL, Redmond couple still bulk up some and get to 300 lbs, becoming an ideal IDL pass rushing threat.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-13-2023
(04-12-2023, 12:28 AM)pulses Wrote: Goodberry is high on Redmond .
Good to know, from Oklahoma as well. They put out good DL.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Mike M (the other one) - 04-15-2023
(04-12-2023, 10:29 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I can see a team pouncing on Redmond well before the 7th round, if anything for his athleticism alone.
He's kind of a tweener right now, and he never quite lived up to his potential in college.
At the Combine, he weighed 291, but he was categorized as a DE and thus being compared with other edge guys to calculate RAS.
But he ran a 4.81 and put up a 7.30 cone, which is pretty good for a 290+ lb guy.
For comparison, Geno Atkins was about the same size (293 lb).
He ran a 4.85 and put up a 7.33 cone, which are both near the top when comparing to DTs.
Redmond's vert and broad were also similar to Geno's.
I could honestly see Redmond being selected in Rd 4 or Rd 5, and he could be turned into a Geno-lite.
EDIT - When converting Redmond's RAS to DT instead of DE, he rates a 9.72, which is damn near perfect.
Top-tier in every athletic drill, the only knocks when compared to DTs are height and weight.
But as we've seen with more and more DTs the past couple decades, sub-300 lb guys can still be effective.
And just like Atkins did once he got to the NFL, Redmond couple still bulk up some and get to 300 lbs, becoming an ideal IDL pass rushing threat.
His production is good enough and he has some good moves, i expect him to to gone by before round 5 is over.
He made most of his sacks in 2020 from the Edge.
Then in 21 and 22 he was primarily A/B gap run stuffer. So less sacks expected, but still some some pressures/hurries in there.
So listing him as an Edge isn't really right, he's a DT plain and simple. As you said, his RAS is damn good for a DT with height/weight being the negs. Can't fix height, but can add 10-15 lbs and put him in the B gap which was his primary responsibility at OU.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Soonerpeace - 04-18-2023
I think the Bengals trade Jonah to Jacksonville and swap picks with them in the first and second round.
1. Michael Mayer ND
2. Mathew Bergeron OT Syracuse
3. Darius Rush CB South Carolina
4. K J Henry DE Clemson
5. Jalen Redmond DT Oklahoma
6. Dorian Thompson-Robinson QB UCLA
7. Xazavian Valladay RB Arizona
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Soonerpeace - 04-19-2023
I did several draft simulations on Pro Football Draft and got some great first rounders
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - ochocincos - 04-19-2023
(04-18-2023, 08:05 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I think the Bengals trade Jonah to Jacksonville and swap picks with them in the first and second round.
1. Michael Mayer ND
2. Mathew Bergeron OT Syracuse
3. Darius Rush CB South Carolina
4. K J Henry DE Clemson
5. Jalen Redmond DT Oklahoma
6. Dorian Thompson-Robinson QB UCLA
7. Xazavian Valladay RB Arizona
Why would JAX be interested in Jonah?
Cam Robinson is better at LT, arguably.
Unless you were thinking they would put Jonah at RT.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Soonerpeace - 04-20-2023
(04-19-2023, 04:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Why would JAX be interested in Jonah?
Cam Robinson is better at LT, arguably.
Unless you were thinking they would put Jonah at RT.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - ochocincos - 04-20-2023
(04-20-2023, 11:50 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote:
I mean I guess for RT, but he's already stated he doesn't wanna play RT.
If he's gonna play RT, may as well do it for the Bengals.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - Soonerpeace - 04-20-2023
(04-20-2023, 12:03 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I mean I guess for RT, but he's already stated he doesn't wanna play RT.
If he's gonna play RT, may as well do it for the Bengals.
You got me. I’m confused as well.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - ochocincos - 04-20-2023
(04-20-2023, 12:24 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: You got me. I’m confused as well.
Ahh. Now I see where you're going.
Not that you think it makes sense, but you think (know?) it will happen.
RE: Jonah Trade Mock - TKUHL - 04-20-2023
(04-11-2023, 04:31 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: So, I traded Jonah to the Lions to increase the draft position in several rounds.
Results were fairly decent, although I'm so-so with Bergeron competing for RT.
To be fair though there was only one tackle available above Bergeron in the 2nd.
PFN:
18. Bijan Robinson-RB Texas
74. Sam LaPorta-TE Iowa
92. Matthew Bergeron-OT Syracuse
98. Kyu Blu Kelly-CB Stanford
131. Luke Schoonmaker-TE Michigan
140. Isaiah Land-EDGE Florida A&M
152. Moro Ojomo-DT Texas
194. Deuce Vaughn-RB Kansas State
246. Jalen Redmond-DT Oklahoma
This would make me very happy. Good job.