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Rank our Edge D (2023) - bfine32 - 07-21-2023
We move back to the D and asses our Edge Dlinemen. This one is a little different. I'll allow 2 choices in the poll. Vote to answer 2 questions. One question is where do we rank against the NFL and one is who will be our #3. I get Myles will most likely play LDE with Ossai plays RDE, but one of them will have better numbers. So where to you rank Sam and Trey and whoever we have as #3?
As always the competition:
ATL: BUD DUPREE-LORENZO CARTER-CALACIS CAMPBELL
ARZ: ZAVEN COLLINS-JONATHAN LEDBETTER-BJ OJULARI
BAL: ODAFE OWEH-TYUS BOWSER-DAVID OJABO
BUF: GREG ROUSSEAU-VON MILLER-LEONARD FLOYD
CAR: BRIAN BURNS-MARQUIS HAYNES-YEUTER GROSSMATOS
CHI: TREVIS GIPSON-DEMARCUS WALKER-DOMINIQUE ROBINSON
CLV: MYLES GARRETT-ZADARIUS SMITH-OGBO OKORONKWO
DAL: MICAH PARSONS-DEMARCUS LAWRENCE-SAM WILLIAMS
DEN: FRANK CLARK-BARON BROWNING-RANDY GREGORY
DET: ADIAN HUTCHINSON-JAMES HOUSTON-CHARLES HARRIS
GBP: PRESTON SMITH-RASHAN GARY-LUKAS VANNESS
HOU: WILL ANDERSON-JERRY HUGHS-CHASE WINOVICH
IND: KWITTY PAYE-DAYO ODEYINGBO-TYQUAN LEWIS
JAX: JOSH ALLEN-TRAVON WALKER-KLAVON CHAISSON
KCC: GEORGE KARALAFTIS-CHARLES OMENIHU-FELIX ANUDIKE
LVR: MAXX CROSBY-CHANDLER JONES-TYREE WILSON
LAC: JOEY BOSA-KHALIL MACK-TULI TUIPULOTU
LAR: ERNEST JONES-MICHEAL HOECHT- KEIR THOMAS
MIA: JAELAN PHILLIPS-BRADLEY CHUBB-MALIK REED
MIN: DANIELLE HUNTER-MARCUS DAVENPORT-DJ WONNUM
NEP: MATTHEW JUDON-JOSH UCHE-ANFERNEE JENNINGS
NOS: CAMERON JORDON-CARL GRANDERSON-PAYTON TURNER
NYG: KAYVON THIBODEAUX-AZEEZ OJULARI-JIHAD WARD
NYJ: JOHN FRANKLIN MYERS-CARL LAWSON-JERMAINE JOHNSON
PHI: BRANDON GRAHAM-JOSH SWEAT-DEREK BARNETT
PIT: TJ WATT-ALEX HIGHSMITH-MARKUS GOLDEN
SFF: DRAKE JOHNSON-NICK BOSA-CLELIN FERRELL
SEA: DARRELL TAYLOR-UCHENNA NWOSU-BOYE MAFE
TBB: JOE TYRON-SHAQ BARRETTYAYA DIABY
TEN: HAROLD LANDRY-ARDEN KEY-DENICO AUTRY
WAS: CHASE YOUNG-MONTEZ SWEAT-EFE OBADA
NOTABLE FAs: ROBERT QUINN-YANNICK NGAKOUE-JADEVEON CLOWNEY-JUSTIN HOUSTON
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2023
I posted some numbers, from '21, i think it was, that showed combined sacks for starting EDs and i seem to recall the Bengals being in the top 10. Maybe right around 10. Kinda foggy right now but i voted 6-10 while i believe they're around 10ish, give or take a couple.
Trey, Sam and Ossai should get some pretty decent numbers this year.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - Synric - 07-21-2023
(07-21-2023, 04:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: LAR: STEVE AVILA-BRIAN ALLEN-COLEMAN SHELTON
I would probably rank this edge group last.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - bfine32 - 07-21-2023
(07-21-2023, 06:13 PM)Synric Wrote: I would probably rank this edge group last.
Looks like I skipped both LA teams. LAC can do ALOT better than what I listed.
UPDATED.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - Housh - 07-21-2023
(07-21-2023, 04:56 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I posted some numbers, from '21, i think it was, that showed combined sacks for starting EDs and i seem to recall the Bengals being in the top 10. Maybe right around 10. Kinda foggy right now but i voted 6-10 while i believe they're around 10ish, give or take a couple.
Trey, Sam and Ossai should get some pretty decent numbers this year.
It does not feel like we should be top 10 in sacks
Lou seemed to value covering the whole field over sending pressure so if we are top 10 even tho Lou doesn’t blitz a lot that’s all on guys just making plays.
I really want to blitz more in 2023z
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - NATI BENGALS - 07-22-2023
Didn't see #1 as option. Couldn't vote.
But then I voted top 5. Because some teams are OK compared to our depth
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - rfaulk34 - 07-22-2023
(07-21-2023, 09:02 PM)Housh Wrote: It does not feel like we should be top 10 in sacks
Lou seemed to value covering the whole field over sending pressure so if we are top 10 even tho Lou doesn’t blitz a lot that’s all on guys just making plays.
I really want to blitz more in 2023z
For ED combos it looked like this;
chicago - 25.5
cleve - 25
pitt - 22.5
bengals - 21.5
sf 21.5
new orl - 21.5
ariz - 21.5
tenn - 21
carolina - 20
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - TheLeonardLeap - 07-22-2023
11-16, Ossai
Hendrickson/Hubbard pairings
*2019: 12.5
*2020: 15.5
2021: 21.5 sacks
2022: 14.5 sacks
Not teammates in 2020 and 2019, but that's what it would have been. I think they really need some interior pressure and some scheme help, because 2022 was pretty brutal being 29th in team sacks. They certainly have it in them, though, so I wouldn't be completely shocked if they put together another top-10 season, just sadly can't assume that after '22. Ossai breaking out in his 3rd year sure wouldn't hurt.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-22-2023
I voted 6-10, but around 7th is where I think we are at until we see Murphy play and Ossai continue to become a stud
pass rusher. Trey is a top pass rushing Edge and when he is determined to get to the QB no one in the NFL can stop him.
Hubbard will just get better, always does, his work ethic is second to none.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - M.W. - 07-22-2023
Went 6-10 with Murphy. No hate for Ossai but Murphy will be sneaky good. Both will have good seasons. The depth at DE is really good.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - bfine32 - 07-22-2023
(07-22-2023, 08:33 PM)M.W. Wrote: Went 6-10 with Murphy. No hate for Ossai but Murphy will be sneaky good. Both will have good seasons. The depth at DE is really good.
Hey thanks for reading. Most didn't select between Ossai and Myles in the poll.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - rfaulk34 - 07-23-2023
(07-22-2023, 11:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hey thanks for reading. Most didn't select between Ossai and Myles in the poll.
Whoops. Fixed.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - J24 - 07-24-2023
Both Hendrickson and Hubbard were top 15 in pressures in 2022.
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - bfine32 - 07-24-2023
My top 3:
PIT
CLV
LVR/LAC
RE: Rank our Edge D (2023) - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-24-2023
(07-22-2023, 11:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hey thanks for reading. Most didn't select between Ossai and Myles in the poll.
This is a hard one as I think Ossai might be the better pass rusher right now and Myles the better run stopper. Depends on the downs.